NBE whiners who poo-poo dowsers

[Wenonae]

I've never posted here, but I must really be tired of whiners! There are some members who have being doing trial and error for now going on years. We've all come up through forums through the years trying to figure out if it's possible to grow breast using 'natural' means. Now, we've learned about dowsing (thank God), we really know it's true for a lot more to accomplish NBE goals and that those web site testimonials are indeed possibly true for those few women who shared.

Well, my gripe is this. Myself and other key 'researchers' have despite our best efforts have accepted the impossibility of being able to 'form' a scientific method for coming up with a working routine for anyone (not to mention everyone) no matter that the best herbs and best reasoning used, we wind up just wasting time.

However, my problem is that the skeptics and wary won't even PROVE that dowsing "doesn't" work. They’d rather sit and whine about how ‘flat-chested’ they are and keep putting money down the drain. I’m like ENOUGH already. Don’t dowse. Do trial and error. But shut the whining up!!! When will they ever get tired of it?? Ugh!

Then there’s some T-n-E people who keep saying dowsing is fake….it can’t work. Well to those folks, you’re what’s called ‘haters’. There are real people posting real stories, but you STILL say we’re all lying. I’ve figured out that you must be jealous; That you can’t get trial and error to work and think you’re above ‘dowsing’. You think you’re soooo smart. You very well may luck up on something one day, but chances are you won’t! Your hateful remarks and the doubts you cast upon those people who are open to dowsing, will just come back around to you to stymie your own efforts. I hope that you simply wallow in the empty pockets you’re making as you waste your time, with your hands wrapped in gray duct tape preventing you from posting and confusing people again!

Peace.

Wen’

[pixiedust]

hey wenenae

i can totally understand why you feel the way you do and it must feel like your banging your head against a brick wall, i think i could have been one of these people at some point and im sorry if i was. I am currently dowsing and thank you for helping me get started with it (i know i was such a pain lol) I'm trying it for at least 3 months as my p says i should go up a cup size or have some result in two months. I do think you have done the right thing by informing others about this method and getting information 'out there' about it, and good luck with achieving your goals and congratulations on the growth you have had.

[Wenonae]

pixiedust said:

hey wenenae

i can totally understand why you feel the way you do and it must feel like your banging your head against a brick wall, i think i could have been one of these people at some point and im sorry if i was. I am currently dowsing and thank you for helping me get started with it (i know i was such a pain lol) I'm trying it for at least 3 months as my p says i should go up a cup size or have some result in two months. I do think you have done the right thing by informing others about this method and getting information 'out there' about it, and good luck with achieving your goals and congratulations on the growth you have had.

Sincerest thanks for your comments. It's definitely been 'one of those days'.

BTW, make sure you check to make sure you're eating enough protein, and not too much refined sugar. Both can prevent you from filling in fats though you may grow the receptors.

Wen'

[gigi]

Hey Wen,
Yes, it has been one of those days! It is very frustrating when you personally find something that works, share it, and then come up against alot of unwarranted negativity. Unfortunately it seems that's part of the process with most things. I'd rather be told that a person doesn't believe in it or isn't receptive to it. That's an honest response as is trying something first before pronouncing it doesn't work. I know a bit of trial and error having been at this for a few years.

[akira]

Now I know why Wen seems cranky when she posts. I thought it was all me pissing her off too(prolly wasn't helping). I don't understand why people are all putting it down too. I mean sure a lot of us seem to want scientific proof for it, but they don't even get scientific proof from a lot of the sites that sell breast enlargement products let alone a scientific explaination past "stimulates estrogen receptors in breasts" from the lot of these places.

Some things just can't be explained with science(actually I can think of a way to explain dowsing in a scientific way but I don't think it will be right to be honest)and if something is working for someone, why put it down? Its like these people who put down dowsing are calling the people who have had success with it liars or something.

Its fine to be skeptical but do it in a way that isn't rude and mean to those who are doing it.

[Jewelz]

I read one other be board, although i never post there, it seems were ever you go there they are, the same ole people knocking dowsing again and again. I get sick of reading about it. This board that board...same comments and arguements!!
I'm not surprised you get pissed off with it Wen when you keep having to repeat yourself over and over to the same ole people, i get pissed off just reading it.

For all those people who knock it when you can't be bothered to try it

CHANGE THE BLEEDIN RECORD!!!!

One lucky lady even had the offer of having it all dowsed for her because she was so against it working and just ranting on about it all the time. But she STILL refused the offer!! Makes me wonder whether that person really wants boobs or whether she just wants to argue about it all the time.
If someone is being very negative about something then nothing positive will ever come out of it.

EACH TO THEIR OWN! For the people that don't want to try it, for what ever your reason, then fair enough,but if all you want to do is slate off other people and put them down then say nothing at all!!! coz i for one am sick of hearing you. and stop bringing every one else down with you. We are real people, here to support each other not doubt eachother and call eachother liars!!

Nuff said!!

[pixiedust]

wenonae said:

Sincerest thanks for your comments. It's definitely been 'one of those days'.

BTW, make sure you check to make sure you're eating enough protein, and not too much refined sugar. Both can prevent you from filling in fats though you may grow the receptors.

Wen'

i will lol though i think i eat too much refined sugar like chcocolate lol i need something to stop me eating it i have no darn willpower when it come to that stuff lamo
anyways i hope your feeling better now

[fawnmarie]

Pixie,

Try magnesium. If you are craving chocolate - you need magnesium.

If you are just craving sweets, try adding more protein.

Fawn

[Melo]

Hi, I have a feeling I'm probably one of the people that many of you are mad at, but it really does not bother me. In fact, I am interested in discussions and debates.

There is no proof that anyone on any forum is experiencing success (or failure) with natural breast enlargement. We're just represented by online data (mainly text and pictures, but for some maybe sound and video). Some of us may be lying in our words or posting fake or computer-edited pictures. But that should NOT stop us from communicating with each other! The important thing is that many of us are in this together--we're interested in natural breast enlargement, and that's why we're here. No one should try to force their ideas on anyone, and likewise, an opinion is just someone's opinion, and just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be posted. That's why we call our communication media discussion forums. I hope that no one feels intimidated by the majority's opinion, but if they do, there are other places for them to communicate.

I don't believe that I'm a "hater" or a "whiner." Many of us get frustrated or upset with having small or flat breasts. Isn't that the reason why some of us are here? I don't think that I am "above" dowsing or even natural breast enlargement itself. I just have not seen real proof that either really works, but I'm still interested in discussing and debating it. I understand things better that have been explained through scientific testing and logic, but that's just me--not everyone thinks that way, and I respect that.

I also do NOT think that "duct tape" should wrap the hands of skeptical members who would like to voice their opinions and ideas. We don't all think the same way, and it would be a very boring world if we did! But if any post bothers you, you can always ignore it or report it to the manager of the discussion forum.

Some of you know that I manage a natural breast enlargement discussion forum too. Just to let you know, my personal opinions are NOT reflective of the forum.

But I'm glad that a lot of you got to vent out your anger or frustration--I know it really helps sometimes! It also adds to the variety and interest of posts we get on these forums.

Happy posting everyone!

Cya!
~Melody~

[pixiedust]

fawnmarie said:

Pixie,

Try magnesium. If you are craving chocolate - you need magnesium.

If you are just craving sweets, try adding more protein.

Fawn

I just thought it was because i was a junk food addict lol what sort of thing has these substances in then? I know meat has protein in it and so does eggs..

[Wenonae]

Melody said:

I don't believe that I'm a "hater" or a "whiner." Many of us get frustrated or upset with having small or flat breasts. Isn't that the reason why some of us are here? I don't think that I am "above" dowsing or even natural breast enlargement itself. I just have not seen real proof that either really works, but I'm still interested in discussing and debating it. I understand things better that have been explained through scientific testing and logic, but that's just me--not everyone thinks that way, and I respect that.

I would beg to differ on the above statements because you do nothing to prove otherwise that you are NOT a whiner. Whiners post the same thing over and over such as 'I'm so flat-chested' or 'I'm a skeptic about dowsing', but they do nothing of the sort to really improve or prove the situation. I'm sure if I were to take a poll about what people thought about your posts (aside from ur breast company compilation) with the choice being 'whiner' or 'active seeker', the majority would say 'whiner'.

Also, if you were really frustrated, honestly frustrated, then you would try ALL avenues for NBE. So far you have had no problem trying out stuff from all sorts of sites based on testimonials that could have easily been made up and Fawn's NBE research contributions, but still you won't dowse and say that there's no proof in that avenue. There's more proof dowsing than with those other sites because you can communiate to REAL POEPLE on a forum.

Sure you don't care what others say and you want to post to a forum your opinions, but at some point and time you should be honest enough with yourself to say you don't really want a solution for growing breasts. You'd rather stick your head in the sand and whine about how 'you haven't seen proof'. This is a forum. People post candidly about different situations and on this one, about breast growing. It doesn't get more real than this. So for you to say you haven't seen proof means you haven't read and of the words in the forums with positive testimonies. It also means we're ALL in some conspiracy againt Miss Melo'-dramatic to post ALL these stories to cause her to be leery. Puh-lease.

Really, if you couldn't whine or 'debate' as you like to say you're doing, you'd have nothing to say. The truth is out...you're not after NBE Quest, you're after NBE Sympathy and Pity because you're too stubborn to go after and accept the real truth- Drs. will NOT be able to help you except with surgery, only dowsing will help you to know the Truth within- why you didn't grow, what you need to grow, etc. But then again, dowsing "is not for everyone" as you so eloquently said. It's really only for those who really want the Truth.

So, just give up the front. Really. Sign up for 'Whiners Anonymous' and be done with it.

Wen'

[Jewelz]

Some of us may be lying in our words or posting fake or computer-edited pictures.

Why oh why would we be here if we were posting fake pics or lying...geeez, what would be the point in that? Its not like were here to make money or con people. we are here to help each other as honestly as we can!

Many of us get frustrated or upset with having small or flat breasts. Isn't that the reason why some of us are here?

Yes of course thats the reason why we are here, because we are all unhappy with our breasts, but we don't all just moan moan moan about it all the time because it just brings everyone else down.

If dowsing is not for you Melody then that is fine, but you are putting it about all the time that it couldn't possibly work and you are also calling people here liars. That is very unfair! There are girls on here that it HAS worked for. How do you know 'it couldn't possibly work' if your never going to even give it a go youself?.

Yes we are all entitled to our own opinions but, if you think people here are liars IS THAT YOUR OPINION IS IT? That is a very personal attack on these people and these are people that have infact offered to help you time and time again. But of course you refuse to be helped...maybe its because you just don't want them to be able to prove YOU wrong !!

[lilsx1]

I posted pics and not only do I have nothing to gain from posting them (I do it to provide encouragement for others who are wondering what might work) but I also have NO money for the PROFESSIONAL software and I have NO knowledge on how to use those programs - in fact it is my husband that has to shrink the pics and someone from this board helps me to post them.
You mentioned trying other things from other sites - those sites have pics of women that look like they have fake breasts and yet you were suckered in to that? Did you notice all the makeup they were wearing too? I don't see people like that in real life... I have also read many situations where sites like that steal or buy testimonies and pics from other sites (surgical and not). People make nuts up for money too. So I would like YOU to PROVE who is faking. Not only that but I guess my final retort to your astounding ignorance is that I am due for my D cup in June and am planning on posting a variety of pics from when I was an A and when I get my D - some pics from that. That way when everyone sees the variety they can see for themselves the difference and no one will care about your whining because they are here to grow boobs - you know ACTUALLY grow them, and they will have proof and know what they can do too to achieve this. You may be interested in debates but there is no debate here. IT WORKS. You lose not only the argument but the breasts!

[Melo]

wenonae said:

I'm sure if I were to take a poll about what people thought about your posts (aside from ur breast company compilation) with the choice being 'whiner' or 'active seeker', the majority would say 'whiner'.

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So for you to say you haven't seen proof means you haven't read and of the words in the forums with positive testimonies. It also means we're ALL in some conspiracy againt Miss Melo'-dramatic to post ALL these stories to cause her to be leery. Puh-lease.

**** Drs. will NOT be able to help you except with surgery, only dowsing will help you to know the Truth within- why you didn't grow, what you need to grow, etc. But then again, dowsing "is not for everyone" as you so eloquently said. It's really only for those who really want the Truth.

So, just give up the front. Really. Sign up for 'Whiners Anonymous' and be done with it.

Wen'

Ha--I KNEW that you and your gang were against me! So you guys would actually all vote that I'm a whiner? Great--I'm sure a lot of other people from other forums think that you're mean and nasty with the kind of names you call me--and the way you get other people to gang up on me so that you can all hate me like that. If you ask me, YOU'RE the hater, not me.

(By the way, I remember similar "gang-ups" happening between your gang against Wahaika and M97, so I'm not the only one.)

But like I said, I really don't give a %^&* what you and your followers think. I would like to grow breasts, but right now I don't feel like being the guinea pig, so maybe next month or next year I'll become one of your followers and start dowsing too--and I NEVER meant that dowsing does not work--I just said that I haven't found any proof. A lot of the sources I've read are from witchcraft websites, and that is kind of hard for me to swallow. So for some of us, it may take us a LOT of time to believe that a lot of these unproven methods really work--call us retarded if you will (might as well call us "retarded whiners").

I'm sorry that my skepticism drives you to hate me--and I'm sure others are sorry too. And I do NOT want sympathy or pity, especially not from someone as callous as you who makes fun of my feelings of being flat-chested. I don't need sympathy--I need a solution.

NBE Quest is not about me either. I created it for people to openly discuss about natural breast enlargement. I did not want to feel like a leader type or anything like that. I like it when discussion flows spontaneously and freely.

Well, how do you know what "doctors" will and will not say? I've seen a few doctors--some of them try to discourage me from getting implants! So not all of them are cosmetic surgery advocates--geez!

Whatever you say, boss--I'm not intending to be a whiney ^&*(^& or whatever you think I am. I'd just like better, more accurate information about natural breast enlargement and dowsing. If you and your followers are so "credible," why don't you conduct some clinical studies?

Jewelz said:

If dowsing is not for you Melody then that is fine, but you are putting it about all the time that it couldn't possibly work and you are also calling people here liars. That is very unfair! There are girls on here that it HAS worked for. How do you know 'it couldn't possibly work' if your never going to even give it a go youself?.

I'm not putting down dowsing. I'm not calling anyone a liar. I'm just saying that so far, I have not found any studies or credible sources that show that dowsing or natural breast enlargement really works. I will need to read up on it a bit more. Sorry if I have offended anyone. And dee-yam--I'm SORRY for being so skeptical. But I have been brought up with scientific ways of looking at things. I'm no scientist, but I prefer to investigate something further before jumping on the bandwagon and believing it right away. Not that I've never been a victim--when I first tried breast enlargement pills, I actually believed that they worked.

Well guys, I hope you don't hate me. But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter because it's just a discussion forum with some people who hate those of us who are skeptical toward some alternative methods.

Really...PEACE. And I look forward to hearing about your successes with natural breast enlargement.

Cya!
~Melody~

P.S. Be patient with us skeptical members, and it will pay off. Before you know it, you may have converted us by then!

[gigi]

Melo,
As I've understood for several years now, the focus of this board is NBE. We've had a very cooperative, supportive group with open discussion and dissent. There have been methods and suggestions that were questionable yet we've worked them out. If someone isn't "with" a specific program there's no obligation to follow it. People are individual and usually need individual solutions. The difficulty arises with unwarranted characterizations and accusations. In some cases they have nothing at all to do with NBE.
That being said, I expect an openess to the experiences of others. One can choose whatever one wants to actually do. What is unfair is to deny the results that these members have achieved and imply falsification. There's also a matter of hope here. Being sceptical doesn't require carrying the pin to poke continuous holes in optimism. Optimism, in my opinion, is a requirement even for a scientist to persevere toward a goal.
So, we are not a gang and this is not a conspiracy directed toward you. I personally don't have the time or inclination for that. Our goal is NBE and helping one another achieve it.