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Post by flatmama on May 6, 2009 7:46:47 GMT -5
AF has now begun. It's still sort of heavy. I guess not as bad as usual, as far as I can tell right now. I don't feel any major cramping...so yay! No headache/migraine so far.
My breast have....well, not really shrunk, just squishy now...less firm. They still feel bigger than usual and bra is still alittle uncomfortably tight feeling. Other than that...no change.
I think I'll be starting the massage with the extract and such tomorrow.
Concerns: I started feeling 'squishy' before AF this time instead of a couple days in. It was about a day after stopping the active BC pills. Can I achieve permanent growth while on birth control or will I lose it all once I stop the pill? Do I need to incorporate internals to make it permanent or will externals alone help that? Those are really my only concerns so far.
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Post by serene on May 6, 2009 12:59:11 GMT -5
FM, I'm so glad for you that you did not have a headache, (and jealous).  With what I am taking now mine were also squishy before AF as well. Hmmm... Serene |
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Post by flatmama on May 6, 2009 15:21:02 GMT -5
I spoke too soon on the headache but it isn't a migraine! So I'm good. hm, wonder if getting squishy before AF is good? |
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Post by minax on May 6, 2009 23:29:26 GMT -5
I am squishy now -while- AF, but I've been wondering if it is true that during your period you're supposed to stop massaging?
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Post by flatmama on May 7, 2009 8:34:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure if you are supposed to stop massaging during AF or not. I always just have massaged during. I've read benefits that breast massage can help reduce the blood loss and ease menstrual cramps so I don't see why you couldn't. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Isn't squishy great.....I can't wait for them to get firmer again. At least they still feel bigger!
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Post by flatmama on May 11, 2009 7:49:18 GMT -5
Yeah....bigger gone! I really hope this is shrinkage happening. I expected it before on the herbs, don't know if it happens with the massage. AF is now over and I'm back on the active birth control pills. I'm still having sensations, especially after I massage, but I'm definitely smaller! I did massage a couple of times with the Fennel Extract, Vit. E oil, and Cocoa butter. I'm probably going to be adding EPO (because I still have some left) to the massage.
I just gotta keep it up and try to stay positive.
I honestly don't know how well BE will work for me this time. I'm really working hard on losing a couple of inches in some not so pleasant places at the same time. My hope is that at least I can keep that very little bit I have up top there while I attempt this. I always lose my breasts first.
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Post by serene on May 11, 2009 9:44:30 GMT -5
FM,
I hope you don't loose it in your breasts too with any weight loss. I have read that if you take Saw Palmetto during weight loss that it should help. I don't know if that's true or not. Would you consider using Lipoderm to help? I've used it pretty successfully, though it's not the reason for my recent weight loss.
Serene
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Post by flatmama on May 11, 2009 10:06:04 GMT -5
I used Lipoderm before and didn't really have too much success with it. If I actually start losing anything then I'll take the Saw Palmetto. The thing with me, sadly, is that it takes a couple of months of steady working out before my body kicks in and starts to lose anything. It's pretty depressing to work out so much and not lose anything but hopefully without the internals it'll work out this time.
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Post by flatmama on May 12, 2009 7:50:44 GMT -5
I am actually losing weight! This is amazing! Okay, my breasts are smaller too (again shrinkage???) as my hubby pointed out but didn't mind. I don't have a measuring tape to see where I'm losing it. It looks like my waist and my breasts, unless those just shrank from time of the month. Fingers crossed that they'll come back.
So Serene, you were saying Saw Palmetto is good to take during weight loss. Do you know how much? I really want the weight to keep going down. This is wonderful. It's been a long time since I've gotten that scale to budge...and it's down 2 lbs from last week. Crazy!
Forgot to add- I'm also trying the visualization thing again. It's hard to picture myself with a womanly chest but I'm getting better. I'm not just visualizing a bigger chest but also improvements in other parts of my body. I don't know if it's helping me with the weight loss or what but I do know it's helping me feel better about the body I actually have. So either way, it's good.
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Post by serene on May 12, 2009 9:50:30 GMT -5
Yea, somewhere, I believe on this board, I had read that Saw Palmetto was good to take during weight loss to help maintain breast size. I will do some more reading around and see if I can find it. I'm sorry, I have the worst memory for a lot of this info. I lost 7 pounds in 2 days, it came from my waist and my chest as well.
Serene
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Post by flatmama on May 13, 2009 8:38:07 GMT -5
Thanks Serene! You don't have to look it up for me though! I can try to find it. I'm being so lazy lately. I'm wanting to wait and see if it was shrinkage or weight loss that made my breasts go smaller right now. If my breasts keep getting smaller, I'll definitely start on the herbs just to keep something! Right now, as I keep up with massage, they seem to be firming back up a bit. I'm not sure if size has changed yet but the bra feel kind of uncomfortable right now, mostly around the band. Now if I could just figure out how to get the armpit fat to move to the tops of my breasts I'd have some good tops! |
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Post by serene on May 13, 2009 9:36:43 GMT -5
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Post by flatmama on May 14, 2009 8:26:21 GMT -5
Thanks Serene! Right now I seem to be filling in a bit more. I really want to do this without internals. I guess it's possible but probably a lot slower. I have no patience right now. I'm starting to look at surgery again! At least the money isn't there so it's easy to talk myself out of it Day 14 is next wednesday, that's when I'll measure. And then I'll give it another month and see if there is at least some progress. If so, I'll feel better and be able to stick with it longer. |
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Post by flatmama on May 14, 2009 17:09:12 GMT -5
Okay, I know I just wrote this morning...I guess this is more of a complaint than an update.
I'm SOOOO sick of my bra! I want to rip the thing off and throw it in the shredder! It feels so tight right now and uncomfortable. I completely would if I was at least as big as I felt right now!
On the sensations side.....tingle/itchy kind of feeling, super full feeling of course, and aches, I swear almost all the way up to my neck. The right is still bigger than the left but I'm sure they'll catch up eventually, as long as both are growing. I haven't done massage with the fennel extract in a couple of days. I swear when I did, they felt squishier and I had less sensations. When I just use cocoa butter I get more fullness and such. Any theories? Too much estrogen with the extract?
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Post by flatmama on May 16, 2009 16:58:11 GMT -5
Still feeling full, and having sensations. I'm wondering if my lack of feelings from using the fennel extract was because of the timing of when I used it. I'll have to try it tonight and see what happens.
Wahaika,
I'm wondering if you could help me. What would an internal herbal program look like in addition to the Yasmin? I don't want to cause too much of an imbalance since I'm feeling pretty stable and I also don't want to stall because of the extra hormones.
Thanks so much.
FM
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