Greenbush Ramp-Up

[Wahaika]

What multivitamin? BTW, 15 mg zinc is 100% RDA, but still too low (my opinion). Should be OK.

[shakira8]

Oh,ok then,thanx!

[Peachy]

Hello Wahaika,

A couple of quick questions for you: is your wife on any kind of "maintenance" herbs (from Greenbush or another source)? If so/not, has she kept her growth?

Also, while your wife was on the Greenbush routine, did she experience side effects such as mood swings, acne, irregular periods?

You may have already addressed these questions elsewhere; I just didn't see anything to that effect.

Thank you for taking the time to help!

Peachy

[Wahaika]

Hello Peachy!

She has kept her growth but there is a certain amount that everyone loses, her included, after doing a routine. For most it is probably about 1/2 inch. She has also been losing because of weight loss efforts. But her growth comes back immediately when getting back on her routine.

She has a really hectic schedule right now so she is off her routine. I would say she will resume in the first part of May.

Remembering that she is perimenopausal, side effects definitely include mood swings. No real change in acne. Cycle length went from 32 days to 28. She has a long history of ovarian cysts. She has had problems with them but does not now.

Wahaika

[Peachy]

Hello again Wahaika,

Thanks for your reply to my last few questions. I have another one: at what point did your wife begin to see a change? One that was measurable? Two or three months? A year?

Thanks for all of your help -

Peachy

[Wahaika]

Hi Peachy,

She deflated in the first month, and then it all grew back by the second and then she grew steadily from there. I would say it took about three to six months on the first go around.

Wahaika

[annie]

hi wahaika its anne, remember me from the headache thread. well was just reading your posts. my headache are much better now. i start to exercise and have alot of fruits which i found out helped. i'm eating ,sleeping much better now.

i order some herbs rom green bush fgor i would love to attempt BE once more, instead of fenugreek i ordered fennel, wild yam and saw palmetto dropping the redclover. my routine is alittle like your wife and pammy.

for massage i ordered wildyam and fenugreek extracts along with some ylang ylang, geranium and peppermit oil also some extra virgin olive oil. i'm taking epo orally since 2 weeks now and doing massage with just plamer's lotion with wildyam extract that i had from my fist attempt. my 34B is feeling alittle fuller and i do get pains sometime .

oh i'm taking centrum for my multi- vitamin right now almost finish, just i stick to this multi-v or should i change it.

i was thinking of addding mirifem cream for massage also alternate it with herbal massage, any sugestion on that.

sorry to bother you. i was also thinking about DMSO for i saw your post on it and i even save the link to order it, but i might leave it for my next cycle.

keeping my finger crossed here . i did make a stats page.

thanks for your help.
anne

[Wahaika]

I'm glad to hear that your headaches are better now. Are they completely gone? Are you getting your 8 hours of sleep every night?

That's quite a collection of massage stuff:
Wild Yam Extract
Fenugreek Extract
ylang ylang oil
geranium oil
peppermint oil
palmer's lotion

I would say use the Palmer's lotion and fenugreek or wild yam extract with a drop of peppermint oil to hide the smell.

You could also use ylang ylang and geramium, but use them together when you use them. Maybe use those two in the morning and the palmers & etc. at night before bedtime followed by 10 to 15 minutes of heat .

>>oh i'm taking centrum for my multi- vitamin right now almost finish, just i stick to this multi-v or should i change it.

Do you have a GNC close by? If so, take your empty Centrum bottle with you and see which is better. The two things to look for are 15 - 30 mg of Zinc and a B Complex. Here are the levels of vitamins that you are looking for:

Once per day:

Vitamin:
A 5000 IU
C 250 mg
D 400 IU
E 200 IU

Thiamin 80 mg
Riboflavin 80 mg
Niacin 80 mg
B6 80 mg
Folic Acid 400 mcg
B12 80 mcg
Biotin 300 mcg

Calcium 500mg
Iron 18 mg
Phosphorus 30 mg
Iodine 225 mcg
Magnesium 250 mg
Zinc 15 mg
etc.

>>i was thinking of addding mirifem cream for massage also alternate it with herbal massage, any sugestion on that. .... i was also thinking about DMSO for i saw your post on it and i even save the link to order it, but i might leave it for my next cycle.

One thing you can do with Mirifem cream is to add fenugreek extract to it. A member of this board tried that and got good results.

A drop or two of DMSO would be good to use after you massage in the extracts & Palmer's lotion.

Be sure to ramp up your dosages slowly, according to feelings of growth.

Good luck!

Wahaika

[annie]

hi wahaika, thank you . my headaches are gone, but i get my migraine like i normall get them before my period, not everyday . i exercise 5 times a week, and get more sleep now.

waiting on my herbs to arrive, so i will tell u how i,m doing when i start.
Thanks again
Anne

[waxachiegirl]

Hi Wahaika.
Have a question. Have been doing routine for 3 months.
Currently taking greenbush herbs
Fenugreek 3450mgs total per day
Wild Yam same
Saw p. same
Started barely filling in an A cup to filling it nicely (can wear B but not filling ) Breast are defintly fuller not flat like before. I have been as big as C (when nursed) normally a B but after breast feeding 3 kids my breast shrunk up!
I am 35 yrs 5'6 small frame 112 lbs
After reading ( so much info ) am I taking to many mgs?
F2F says to break on the start of cycle 4. Is this necesary? I dont want to lose the positive results by taking breaks.
Thanks
Waxachie Girl

[waxachiegirl]

Sorry, forgot to mention I also do the massages in am with wild yam extract and pm with fenugreek extract with lotion. thanks

[Wahaika]

Hello waxachiegirl,

Yes, your dosages are probably too high, but since it seems to be working, keep at it until you have had no growth for a month or two.

I think that taking a break once per 12 months, for one full cycle, is good and necessary. A liver cleanse should also be done at that time and progestereone cream should be considered. But breaking after three months as part of a routine is too soon. Give it more time to firm up the growth already obtained and to give any future growth in months 4-6 a chance to happen.

Wahaika

[waxachiegirl]

Thank you so much for your advice. The reason I had upped my dosages is because i figured that because I naturally have a fast metabolism, work out twice a wk, and drink a caffinated beverage once a day that the herbs would probably travel and leave my system quicker. I eat plenty of proten (80 grams per day) and healty carbs throughout the day, plenty of water. Does that make any sense?
Waxachiegirl.

[connie]

HI, Wahaika:
I was wondering if you could help me out with this. I have been on BE program which dowsing from F2F routine 24 weeks now, using Greenbush herbs kit#2 and Extracts kit #3. Here is my routine:

Morning- Fenugreek 1150 mg
Red Clover 1150 mg
S Palmetto 1150 mg
Wild Yam 575 mg
EPO 1000mg
CHI Massage 360 rotation
one cup of FenugreekFennel tea


Afternoon- Fenugreek 1150 mg
Red Clover 1150 mg
S Palmetto 1150 mg
Wild Yam 575 mg
one cup of FenugreekFennel tea

Night time- Fenugreek 1150 mg Red Clover 1150 mg
S Palmetto 1150 mg Wild Yam 575 mg
Borage Oil 1000 mg
CHI Massage 360 rotation follow w/heating pad 30 min.
one cup of FenugreekFennel tea

My own Boobie Batter- 10ml of Palmer Lotion
2 droppers of Fenugreek Extract
2 droppers of Wild Yam Extract
2500 mg EPO good for 3 days use

I'm 39 female Asian w/ 2 kids breastfed, 5'4" tall, 118 lbs ( I've gained 5 lbs during BE program), rib 28" (71 cm) , bustline 34" ( actually went from 86 cm to 87.5 cm)


At beginning of BE program (started on 10/28/05) I felt soreness and tingling all the time (strength 8) my breasts are fuller and firmer after Cycle 3 then I took Cycle 4 break. When I resumed on 2/17/06 (Cycle 5) I lose the strength of sorness and tingling (may be 3) until now, what can I do to see ACTUAL size increase?
Am I taking too much herbs?

Now it seems that all SLOOOOW progress stops , what's your suggestion? Please Advise!

Thanks a bunch!

^_________^

Connie

[annie]

Hi connie its anne, so happy to see you. i have looked and looked for you. wahaika is good with advise so hopefully he can help you. i'm starting my herbs today, happy to say my headaches have gone just regular migraine before period.
I"m using fennel instead of fenugreek.

connie i wish u the best and hope wahaike have some good advice for you.
Anne.