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Post by Wenonae on Dec 6, 2003 21:22:08 GMT -5
Well, ladies, After doing progressing so well, it appears these past two months, I've hit a stall. I decided, instead of upping my dosages further (I'd been itching so badly, that I was starting to break skin  ), I decided to back down instead, and go back to something similar of what I was doing those first two months AND hypnosis (1200mg BO, 800mg oregano, 1500 damiana, 2g SP berries, boobie batter and dry massages) After doing that consistently for this week..I'm starting to regain what I was losing ;D...(I'd lost 0.5plus on each breast!) In addition, I'm going to make sure to take my largest dose JUST before bed to take advantage of HGH in my system...and on days that I excercise, I will take a smaller BO dose. We'll see what happens..and I'll keep u all 'abreast' of things. Gotta update my routine and pics..haven't been feeling too well (flu of some sort), so perhaps by the end of next week. |
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Post by Shaz on Dec 7, 2003 7:17:15 GMT -5
Hi, why take a smaller BO dose on days that you exercise? (I exercise almost every day!)
Sharon.
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Post by Wenonae on Dec 7, 2003 23:23:06 GMT -5
Oh..let me re-explain. My dosages are split up into 2X's 2 pills + 1X 3 pills. The dose with 2..I'm going to save for the last dose. The 2-pill dose, I'll make sure to take before I excercise (it's gonna be a toughie to remember..but, I'm gonna try)  |
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Post by warriorqueen on Dec 8, 2003 6:04:41 GMT -5
:)Hi Wen, Sorry to hear you've been stalling but good to hear you've managed to tweak and regained! I was just curious about when you take oregano/damiana. Is it throughout the month, or just during luteal? And do you adjust your BO dosages into follicular and luteal amounts (more in luteal?). I'm also taking my last BO dose as late as possible at night. I think the HGH factor could play an important role. I'm also taking l-ornithine and l-lysine just before bed. Hope you feel better soon! WQ  |
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Post by teatowel on Dec 8, 2003 9:11:48 GMT -5
I'm interested in the hgh theory. Where is the thread that explains it all? Sorry I missed it. Thanks tea
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Post by teatowel on Dec 8, 2003 9:13:53 GMT -5
nevermind...will use the cool search option....sorry to bother you
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Post by fawnmarie on Dec 8, 2003 10:00:17 GMT -5
tea -
start looking under the "health" section in the 'medical studies' area.
Fawn
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Post by Wenonae on Dec 8, 2003 14:06:04 GMT -5
:)Hi Wen, Sorry to hear you've been stalling but good to hear you've managed to tweak and regained! I was just curious about when you take oregano/damiana. Is it throughout the month, or just during luteal? And do you adjust your BO dosages into follicular and luteal amounts (more in luteal?). I'm also taking my last BO dose as late as possible at night. I think the HGH factor could play an important role. I'm also taking l-ornithine and l-lysine just before bed. Hope you feel better soon! WQ Thanks, WQ! for the well wishes Doing much better..and I'm pretty darn sure I've gotten the 'goodies' back..now, it's to move foward. To make sure I'm consistent, I just take oregano/damiana throughout the whole mos. When I adjust my BO, I do so on the first or second day of my cycle. Since I'm on Yasmin, I don't need as much estrogen (since some is already in BC), so I've found I need about half the dose I took while on Depo (progestin-based BC). Hope that helps! |
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Post by Wenonae on Dec 8, 2003 14:07:57 GMT -5
I'm interested in the hgh theory. Where is the thread that explains it all? Sorry I missed it. Thanks tea Yeah, TeaT There's a really cool thread in Medical Research that has 17+ responses siting how HGH make IGF-1 and how it's been proven as pertinent link for boobie growth (besides those ideal hormone levels of estrogen, low progesterone, and high prolactin which is increased by massages). I really do this this is the final missing link..now the question is, how to tap into it for those who are having 'probs'.  |
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Post by mansi on Dec 8, 2003 16:17:55 GMT -5
Hi Wen,
Have you considered taking L-arginine and l'ornithine before bedtime to increase growth hormone production??
And Wen I also exercise everyday. I usually exercise in the morning. Given this when should I have my BO? I mean how many hrs before or after the exercise? Also since I am taking 1800 mg BO, should I take 500 mg in morning, 500 mg in afternoon and 800 mg at bedtime??
Also is it best to take BO just before going to sleep?
Thanks
Mansi
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Post by Wenonae on Dec 8, 2003 19:30:31 GMT -5
Hi Wen, Have you considered taking L-arginine and l'ornithine before bedtime to increase growth hormone production?? And Wen I also exercise everyday. I usually exercise in the morning. Given this when should I have my BO? I mean how many hrs before or after the exercise? Also since I am taking 1800 mg BO, should I take 500 mg in morning, 500 mg in afternoon and 800 mg at bedtime?? Also is it best to take BO just before going to sleep? Thanks Mansi Hey Mansi, I'm still really digging into using HGH precursors, however, since I'm back on track with growth with hypnosis, I'm going to stick with that, and take my doses at the most optimal times when HGH is being generated (before bed and before excercise). And I wouldn't take L-argnine..as I had cold sore proness, also. L-orthanine is good, and potentially L-glutamine, however, I was given a heads up, that if one eats a lot of Chinese food, which contains MSG (monosodium glutamate), then L-glutamine is overkill, and not needed. Fawn's recommended and I've also seen and researched that an hour before excercising for injestion of HGH precursors. Finally, yeah...take your doses as u've specified, 500, 500, 800, with the 800 being just before u go to sleep as HGH is naturally higher in the body, according to Fawn and many others, the first 90 minutes of sleep. |
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Post by fawnmarie on Dec 9, 2003 11:08:24 GMT -5
Wen - Just add lysine - you should be okay on the cold sore front.
Mansi - that sounds like a good split, actually. However, you're using VP BO, so you might want to do 450 x 4 instead - 3 caplets, 4 times per day, last dose right before bed. And if you use a precursor, take it with the precursor, right before bed on an empty stomach. Even though you are generally supposed to use BO with food, you'll be okay taking it with the precursor.
Either of you might want to add a pituitary concentrate. Both Solaray and VP make one.
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Post by mansi on Dec 9, 2003 11:14:47 GMT -5
HI Fawn,
What is a precursor?
And what is a pitutory concentrate and what is its purpose??
Also we are never empty stomach when we go to bed. I have my dinner 2 hrs before I go to bed.
That would not make my stomach empty at bedtime.
And I will take 450mg x 3 caps x 4 times a day.
Thanks
Mansi
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Post by fawnmarie on Dec 9, 2003 13:05:30 GMT -5
Mansi -
A precursor is a substance that your body needs to make another substance. Pregnenolone is a precursor for estrogen, progesterone & testosterone. Arginine & ornithine are precursors to human growth hormone (HGH or GH) and human growth hormone is a precursor to insulin-like growth hormone (IGF).
Pituitary concentrate works the same way that ovarian concentrate (BO) does - by stimulating the gland to produce hormones and providing nutrients to do so and by providing some of the same hormone that the gland does. The pituitary gland produces several hormones -
Produced by the Pituitary:
growth hormone, thyroid-stimulating hormone, adrenocorticotropic hormone, & prolactin, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, antidiuretic hormone and oxytocin
I'll post some endo data in medical studies.
Fawn
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Post by mominator on Dec 9, 2003 13:32:12 GMT -5
Not to sound dumb....well...I am on fenugreek again, so it is excusable.  How would IGF-1 work with someone with PCOS? I am assuming it would NOT be a good thing. However, to help with the thyroid issues of PCOS, it sounds as if the Pituitary might be a good idea for PCOS sufferers.  Fawn are refeferncing the Soloary glandular for thyroid? |
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