Do I need progresterone blockers now?!

[emotions2003]

Hello, everyone!
I bought fenugreek and red clover extracts tonight, which are extremely expensive by the way. It must be because I'm in Cambridge now! Anyway, I bought them for use in a massage recipe. While searching the board for info on how to use extracts (which I will ask questions about soon), I found the link to the online hormone balance test. I usually only experience the two symptoms I checked slightly or infrequently. I really wouldn't consider them symptoms because I don't have them often. Anyway, according to the test, since I have one symptom in group 1 and one in group 3, I am in group 4, which means that I am estrogen dominant. Does that mean that I shouldn't use red clover because it's a progesterone-blocker? I remember that I took a couple of pills a month ago that were pure progesterone (don't ask why), and at first, I seemed to shrink, but then I started to grow like never before. I think maybe the progesterone boost helped jumpstart my growth. Of course, I think this is supposed to help everyone who does it (cycling, right?), but if I am in group 4, do I really need progesterone-blockers? Or rather, do I need progesterone? Please let me know what you all think of this. I'm confused. I have another question pertaining to extracts. I don't have a lot of time to spend on massages. I'm in college now! I usually massage for a few minutes in the shower. However, I was wondering if I could leave the batter on over night. Is that too messy? How do you recommend I implement the massages: in the shower as I have been doing, or leaving it on overnight? Okay, I think that's enough for tonight! Thanks so much for your help! ;D
emotions2003

[mominator]

Hi E-2003,

Yep...leave it on overnight! I do! When I was on BE before I massaged 3 x a day. This round, I am just doing it nightly. We'll see how it works. Actually, yes the boobie batter will help growth, but...Fawn has discovered that just "dry" massage, a few tugs throughout the day is probably very beneficial. It creates prolactin, which is only produced during 2 stages, puberty and nursing. ;D So...rub-a-dub-dub! Anytime you have a spare minute.

The progesterone you took prolly enhanced your glands. Not telling to take PR blockers, not telling you Not too. But...several of the top Boobie growers on this board are progesterone deficient/estrogen dominant. Wen is a classic example, she is on high progestin BCP, she started taking Oregano as a pr blocker and has suddenly started sprouting! I am low progesterone/estrogen dominant naturally, and it has benefitted my BE program. If you choose to use a progesterone blocker, be sure to include progesterone cream at least 1 mos out of 3 from days 21-26. To help keep your glands and body healthy

I do use red clover, always have since starting BE, I used it to offset the fenugreek side effects...foggy thinking, headache, bloat. And I really don't have any of those side effects.

So...that's the skinny on massages and the use of pr blockers. There are some wonderful threads regarding both of these, enjoy the "search" feature!

[fawnmarie]

Emo -

WHY you took the progesterone may have more to do with what happened to your breasts than the actual progesterone.

Prolactin is produced all the time, BTW - just in it's highest amounts during puberty and a even moreso after childbirth. Prolactin increases the density of estrogen receptors in breast tissue (which helps us get started developing in puberty and in nursing after childbirty) as well as having an affect on the ability of the body to move nutrient uptake to the breast tissue and reduce fat storage in other areas of the body. All you need is a minute or two in the restroom several times a day for the massage - whenever you need to duck into the loo.

Since you are estrogen dominant you may want to do a month on/month off with progesterone, One month of high estrogen followed by one month of high progesterone and see what happens. However, since you only have one symptom in any given category, I wouldn't think that you should worry about it at all. One of the problems with the Dr. Lee test is that it can lead you to believe you may have a problem when you really don't. Unless you marked at least 3 in any given category, you can probably consider yourself completely normal.

If you don't have a lot of time for massages with your extracts and since you don't get a lot of privacy in college, why don't you try the extract internally instead?

[mominator]

Hey Fawn!

as well as having an affect on the ability of the body to move nutrient uptake to the breast tissue and reduce fat storage in other areas of the body.

It's a self induced fat transplant! I may be able to get my BUTT transplant by myself! naaaaah...I would need a steam roller to get all that FAT up to the boobs...but think of the cleavage!

(fenugreek at work again!)

[emotions2003]

Hello!
Thanks, Mominator and Fawn! I appreciate the help! I think I'll stick with using the extracts in a batter overnight. I'll let you all know what's going on with my progress. BTW, I haven't lost any growth and my period has been over for over 5 days now! ;D So MAYBE I'll get to keep the growth this time! I'm so excited! Alright, talk to ya'll later!
emotions2003

[mominator]

AWESOME! That is VERY good news! Just keep doing what you are doing! If it ain't broke...don't fix it.

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