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Post by peachinmarch on Jan 17, 2011 21:08:25 GMT -5
HI, Wahaika, One more week passed. I don't have any growth at all, not even fullness or heaviness. There are some sensations - itches and aches, about once or twice a day only. In one or two days, period is going to come. I don't think I will achieve anything during this cycle. It seems to me that my body doesn't react to the herbs at all. I am quite discouraged. Shall I stop all these and try something else? Please please Wahaika, help me. Thanks!
Peachinmarch
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Post by Wahaika on Jan 18, 2011 1:53:37 GMT -5
Hello Peachinmarch,
>>"There are some sensations - itches and aches, about once or twice a day only."
This is very good news! Itches and aches once or twice a day is a lot.
Take a one month break from fenugreek, fennel (if you are drinking the tea), saw palmetto and wild yam, starting now. Ramp down over a three day period and start again on cycle day 1 in February. Do exactly what you are doing now. Count the days until you feel more itches/aches and how long they last and if they are stronger or not - or until you feel nothing.
Remain on everything else you are doing.
Good luck!
Wahaika
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Post by peachinmarch on Jan 18, 2011 9:42:26 GMT -5
HI, Wahaika, Many thanks for your prompt reply. Your guidance is very important to me. Ok, I will ramp down starting today. My period come today. Shall I continue the massage with boobie batter (has fenugreek powder in it)? Thanks again! Peachinmarch
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Post by Wahaika on Jan 18, 2011 23:10:40 GMT -5
Hello Peachinmarch
Nope. Stop the massage also.
Wahaika
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Post by peachinmarch on Feb 1, 2011 15:20:35 GMT -5
HI, Wahaika, I am planning to order Greenbush Kit #2 and start again in February, as you suggested. However, kit #2 are not shipped to outside of US. I am advised to use the blend kit by Greenbush. Shall I just use the blend kit from Greenbush, or just buy those stuff from local store? Looking forward to your advice.
Thanks, Peachinmarch
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Post by Wahaika on Feb 2, 2011 23:00:06 GMT -5
Hi Peachinmarch,
Greenbush can ship the enhancement blend but not individual herbs? Hmmmmm. Can they ship individual extracts (Kit #3?).
If not Greenbush individual herbs, what do you have available to you? ( I don't know what country you live in. ) Do you have access to: Solaray GNC Nature's Way Swanson
If you can get any of these, then maybe it would be better to use them. You have already been using individual herbs that seem to be working as expected - what brand are they?
Wahaika
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Post by peachinmarch on Feb 3, 2011 12:18:36 GMT -5
HI, Wahaika, I live in Canada. Yes, they will ship kit #3 abroad. However, I don't know how to use the extract. How much shall I take, and how to ramp up?
I can get individual herbs of Nature's Way from local store. These herbs are what I have been using. They are working to an extent, but not give me much fullness, nor even growth.
Shall I use Kit 3 or Nature's way?
Peachinmarch
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Post by Wahaika on Feb 3, 2011 17:48:03 GMT -5
Hi Peachinmarch, Are you able to buy fresh bulk herbs there? Here, that would be Starwest Botanicals, Frontier Herbs, Ameriherb, or Vitcost.com (which ships Starwest Botanicals) but I don't know if they ship to Canada. Fresh herbs, in bulk would be my first choice - you can put them in capsules easily. If Greenbush, my next choice, Kit #3 is individual herbs. 1ml = 1000mg of dry herb. See the description here: www.greenbush.net/4ounfenex.htmlYou might also get some fennel extract: www.greenbush.net/fenfor.htmlNature's Way would be a very good third choice as long as they have not been sitting on the shelf too long. You can always tell fresh herbs when you open the container. The smell almost knocks you over. No smell = stale herbs. Wahaika
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Post by peachinmarch on Feb 9, 2011 22:54:56 GMT -5
HI, Wahaika, I am going to re-start next week on the first day of my period. I think I will use Nature's Way. Regarding massage, I read somewhere that we should either stop massage or massage less during period. Is this true? Thanks, Peachinmarch
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Post by Wahaika on Feb 11, 2011 1:52:27 GMT -5
Hi Peachinmarch,
The short simple answer is no, it's not true.
But the longer answer is a bit more involved.
Estrogen receptors get more sensitive when they are deprived of estrogen. During the last week of the cycle and during the first 5 days of the cycle, estrogen falls like a rock and then starts to climb. It hits peak around day 12 to 14 in a condition where cells with estrogen have just been deprived. Therefore, as a method of cycling herbs, internals could be dropped during the last week of the cycle and restarted after day 5 or anything in between depending on how it works for a particular woman trying that method. There are other things regarding using the cycle and hormone levels as well. The dosages are usually just taken straight through. I only know of one person to use this method in their dosaging.
Wahaika
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