Starting Again & Hello

[Nikkol]

Hello! I'm not entirely new to BE, but I'm embarking again after a break. I have sort of a weird situation, so I'll give you the basics first. Then, if you're so inclined, there's detailed medical history and stats here:

beboard.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Stats&thread=4665

I'm already altering my hormones in order to reduce auto-immune issues and I'm not sure how that will affect me. I'm currently at 160 mg saw palmetto once daily, and 1120mg fenugreek, split into two doses daily. I still do dry massage, but I have been working out the best options to make a massage oil for myself. Please feel free to make suggestions if there seems to be a glaring issue.

Due to past sensitivities (esp animal hormones), and with lots of research, this is what I'm leaning towards...

Oral, Daily Intake:
Fenugreek - 3,000 mg max
Red Clover - 3,000 mg max
Saw Palmetto - 3,000 mg max

Topical oil recipe:
2oz Evening primrose
2oz Emu Oil (acts as a carrier to drastically boost absorption, extends shelf life; please no vegetarian outcry)
1oz Sweet almond (to lower the viscosity)
3ml Fennel essential oil (more concentrated than extract, therapeutic grade, chosen because it is less expensive than fenugreek)

This produces an appropriate level of dilution with regard to essential oils and is a safe starting point.

Notes on ingredients:
I would like to add pueraria mirifica, but I am moving slowly and have seen fewer reviews on this herb.
Because fennel has basically the same active processes as fenugreek, I am not sure what benefit it has in being added to the blend. I will add it if I reach my fenugreek max and am unsatisfied with results.

I buy almost all my supplements from Puritan's Pride. They have a very good reputation, are extremely inexpensive, and I've had very good luck with them in the past. They were where I got my first fenugreek supplements and those were successful in producing signs of growth in just one month. I highly recommend them. A great place for herbs is Mountain Rose Herbs and small quantities of therapeutic grade essential oils are available super cheap from sun_pure_botanicals on eBay.

[bigboobwannabe88]

Hi, I am new as well. In looking at your regime you might want to try wild yam, I hear many of the ladies here have had great success with it! also have you thought about a body cleanse to get your lymph system clean? And fennel is high in phytoestrogens which are helpful some gals also prefer that smell to fenugreek. anyway just my 2 cents, i am a newb to the bewbs enhancement so bare with me. lol. Oh have you thought of adding flax seed oil? it's is very good for you over all so is borage oil apparently.

take care and I look forward to hearing about your growing!
ciao.
BBWB

[Nikkol]

Hi BBWB!

Wild Yam performs a function which is already performed by the red clover, so I'm trying to add few things at first to find out what works. Because of the dual nature of the red clover (and because I have used it before without sensitivity, that's one of my major concerns because I have a ton of sensitivities), that's just where I decided to start. Of course, any of the ingredients are up for consideration for me (except BO), but my understanding is that there are two basic components making up the bulk of the herbal supplements: phytoestrogens and progesterone blockers. What I've read of red clover is that it contains compounds which perform both functions. (Wild Yam is only a progesterone blocker.) I am familiar with all the herbs listed here (and many that aren't - for NBE and other purposes), so this is just my attempt to keep it simple. Of course, if you've found something that would state red clover doesn't do the job I think it does, I'd be more than willing to take a look and switch it out for something else. Wild yam certainly seems to be the first choice.

I cleanse on a regular basis, and do a water-lemon "liver cleanse" as it's been referred to here, on a daily basis. So, I'm not too worried about that, especially with regard to lymph. Because I do regular lymph drainage massage and dry-brushing, that should be in good shape! I haven't done NBE long, but I am no noob when it comes to natural health.

I know I'm a small minority, but I actually like the smell of fenugreek (I use both fenugreek and fennel in my food all the time!). I smell sort of spicy naturally, so combined with my natural smell I find it pleasant, almost like a sweet curried smell. I confess, I have been told it makes me taste good!

Flax seed is always a good idea. I have a bunch around the house which I used to take daily but sort of fell out of the habit. I've been kicking myself, so it's only a matter of time before I begin with that again, too. I'm probably going to stay away from the borage for now because in the past I had a very strong reaction to evening primrose and they contain basically the same compounds, but borage has a much higher concentration. I'll have to monitor my response to topical primrose and if that works alright I'll be more open to taking it internally. While topical is more direct absorption, it also remains more localized in the body, so it's less likely to cause any wide-ranging issue.

I'll definitely be back to update progress, etc, so I'm sure you'll hear from me!