Rare1's Routine - any suggestions welcome please!

[rare1]

I'm just starting out on this. It is my second attempt, although the first was short lived and under the wrong circumstances so no growth then...but I did feel and look fuller and have the "growing pains" within a two week period ... seems slower this time for whatever reason.?? Am following the Flat 2 Fab basic program at the moment and willing to make changes as suggested...if anyone has any suggestions?

I take one capsule each of the following Greenbush herbs 3 times daily at 8 hour intervals (5.30am, 1:30pm and 9:30pm):

575mg Fennugreek
575mg Saw Palmetto
575mg Red Clover

Bustea (approx 3 mugs full during most days)

Plus 4 capsules of GABA (450mg) in the evening at same time as the 9:30pm dose.

I take colloidal minerals and occasionally spirulina as well.

I'm also on 150mcg of Thyroxine (thyroid hormone replacement) as I don't have a thyroid (more details of my health and history are contained in my... very lengthy ... introduction under the title "Complex History"... for those of you who enjoy reading long winded messages (sorry for that.. I'm not good at "briefing").

I should mention I used Progresterone USP cream for around 2 weeks before commencing. I have an IUD fitted and I have a 16 day period with around 10 days off... didn't know where to start as this is not my norm for the period (IUD was fitted in December and considering having it taken out) so started mid cycle as if I had an Implanon inserted (contraceptive rod).

Massage:

360 rotations twice daily. Massage is done with body butter or another form of moisturising body lotion combined with peppermint or lavender oil and ...

Morning - approx 1ml of Wild Yam

Evening - approx 1ml of Fennugreek.

I intend following Wenonae's instructions for dowsing to see if this is the right program for me etc. and if there is a better and safer method for me to use, given my health issues.

Have been doing this program for two weeks, with a tiny bit of extra fullness almost immediately (I imagine from the massage) and my nipples are a little enlarged as well (not that I needed help in that department).

Am also considering adding Evening Primrose Oil and PABA asap but have some other medical treatments to pay for and car registration in the coming weeks

I do get very tired and wondered if I should swap the Fennugreek for something else? Could this be making me tired?

Any feed back or suggestions would be very very much appreciated.

Love the info on this site... thanks to all those who have posted their info.

Regards
Rare1

[eternalsky]

Hi once more Rare

Wow what a routine! Looks good...but, (I'm no expert), in my humble opinion you should start with a low dose. Like 1 tablet per day of each herb and then increasing them after one week, so that your body gets used to the herbs and absorbs them slowly.

Also, you should add the flaxseed oil (taking it orally), evening primrose (also orally) and finally lots of protein shakes.

Btw, what's PABA?


Good luck Rare!

[imtrying]

Hey there. Hopefully you've ramped up to those dosages? But even so, it seems like you are taking more herbs than you'd think... such as the tea (I took it twice daily at most like the package said) and the extracts you use for massage.
I hope you keep growing though! keep us updated

[rare1]

Hello Eternalsky and thanks for your feedback.

I have just today... started getting some mild tenderness in my breasts (not associated with AF as I've just finished one of my 15 day "why bother" flows.... "why bother" because the flow is hardly enough to bother with but enough to be a bother for staining).

I forgot to mention that I was drinking the Bustea for a few weeks...a few cups a day before commencing on the routine... not sure if that helped or hindered given it was at the same time I was using the Progesterone USP cream to detox the liver.

I will be doing other cleanses from time to time (mostly for my energy levels and other health) throughout my program.

I did ramp up the herbs (before getting your message) to four times a day at relatively even intervals... started this week .. .. maybe that has been why I've started to get tenderness?

Also started including Evening Primrose oil and vitamin C (Vit C more for general health than this program although noted in someone's routine that they'd been advised to take Vit C for their particular routine). Also.. have been taking protein shakes and powder in any form I can at least twice a day for the last few days.

If I have no further luck over the next few weeks... I wonder should I drop right back down and build up slowly again?

PABA is a recommended addition from the Flat2Fab program. Apparently a "hormone potentiator" which slows the break down of hormones in the body leading to an increase in hormones and apparently some doctors use PABA with hormone replacement therapy to reduce the amount of hormones needed to be prescribed (this is the best interpretation that I can give of what I've read in Lucille's program).

Regards
Rare1

[rare1]

Hello Imtrying.. thanks for your message.

My package of Bustea states 2-3 times a day so maybe I was overdoing it with the mugs... but it is quite a yummy tea...

Will start alternating with some Jason Winters Green Tea for general health and let you know how I go.

Not sure if you read the post above.. but I have just started getting tenderness (at the end of my AF) so am hopeful that this is the start of something/s big... pardon the pun.

Rare1