Am I A First On The BE Board?

[madilyn]

Hello Ladies,

My name is Madilyn Carey (but my friends call me Maddy) and I am new to the BE Board. I'm not brand new because I've taken a lot of time to read almost every post in every thread before introducing myself.

I am in awe of how gracious, poised, and intelligently all who participate here handle themselves...and ya'll have a lot of fun in the process. The depth of data available when you consider the posts and links is amazing. It's so refreshing to read a board that is truly committed and dedicated to helping people raise their awareness and succeed at NBE...it's awesome.

I wanted to at least say "Hey" and tell the cliff-notes version of my story before I get into posting a routine, etc... My name hasn't always been Madilyn because I'm a transgendered male. I've made a decision to sort of quasi-transition for the time being and NBE is a program that, if successful, will get me a lot closer to my gender objectives than ever before. I'm very excited about it.

There's so much more that I'd love to share about who I am, where I've been, and what I hope to accomplish, but my purpose now is to ask for your acceptance (or at least referral). I've done my research and I haven't found a forum or discussion group that is as serious about NBE as this one and so this is the board I want to be a part of if I'm welcome.

I don't think I saw another genetic male actively participating in any of the threads, although I did notice a gentleman posting on behalf of his wife. Thus my subject line question...is there another board somewhere where men should be?

There are websites that generically discuss male-to-female (MTF) breast enlargement via use of herbs, exercise, massaging, etc...but there's no support network...the sites are just informational. A lot of links point to some Yvonne Lee or other "experts" in MTF NBE. I want to interact with real people like ya'll so I can actually visualize success through all of you. Your success stories are amazing...and I'm actually quite jealous, lol...

I have chosen to start-out using Pammy's routine (almost) and have already taken 2 days of herbs. I don't quite have all of her herbs because I actually ordered mine before I stumbled onto her routine. I have Flaxseed Oil Capsules, Saw Palmetto, Red Clover Blossoms (which I'm questioning that choice now), and Fenugreek Seed. I guess this is a basic formula right?

I've started a massaging routine with oil and am waiting for cream to arrive from Thailand (another bad newbie decision and I will convert to making my own boobie batter when it runs out). I'm working a 7-Step chest exercise program, but I'm concerned that maybe I shouldn't enlargen my chest muscles...see, I told you I had questions, lol...

I'm also (dare I say it) using a cheap breast pump. I know, I've read all the naysayers out there that say it's a waste of time, and I know it probably is, but it's more for my psychological well being than anything. It's something tangible.

When I use the pump (after massaging...is that cool?) it gives me a sense of what I might actually accomplish some day on NBE...it brings both of my breasts out about 3" (I'm starting out with great man boobs even though I've lost 15lbs and my stomach is much better) and so each 15 minute session with the pump is very empowering to me. I don't think I'm doing any harm am I?

Right now I live as a female about 24/5 or 6, so I'm getting close to my goal of 24/7/365 and I think NBE will really work AND help me. I'm not currently in a medical or financial situation that affords me the opportunity to actually go on hormone replacement therapy (HRT), so NBE is an alternative I want to try. Maybe I'll convert to HRT in a year (if necessary) after getting a jump-start with NBE...but my finances would have to dramatically improve...this economy sucks!

Anyway, this "introduction" is turning into something that I should have put in my "Routine" post and that wasn't my intention. I just want each of you to know that I'm genuine, serious, and would only participate on this board in the most respectful and tasteful manner.

I have a lot of questions and I'd be so very grateful for any feedback or assistance any of you care to give me, if I'm not stepping on any toes by being here. I don't know how open-minded everyone is about allowing a male into the fold. I know I'll never be "one-of-the-girls" on this board, but I am interested in learning, understanding, and becoming a feminine being and I know all of you are the right people.

Let me know if I can post my routine or if I should leave. I'm not here to make any trouble. Thank you for reading this post, it's important to me. I hope to make all of your acquaintance. Have a better than average day and take care...

Happy Growing,

Maddy

p.s. I do have a Flickr link, a Yahoo Profile, and a Yahoo 360 (until they dismantle it soon) if anyone would like to see who I am...

[madilyn]

What's up with the Photobucket thingy next to my subject line? How do I get rid of it?

[flatmama]

HI Maddy,
Welcome! I swear I have seen another genetic male on here trying to enhance his breasts but I'll have to do a major search. i think it was older. Also, has you seen Eve's Forum? There is a male on there that has increased his breast size sucessfully. Here's that link too: www.breastnexus.com/

Wish I knew more about NBE to help you out, but I am still trying to figure it out too. Good luck!

FM

[Wahaika]

>>"Thus my subject line question...is there another board somewhere where men should be?"

>>"I just want each of you to know that I'm genuine, serious, and would only participate on this board in the most respectful and tasteful manner."

>>"I have a lot of questions and I'd be so very grateful for any feedback or assistance any of you care to give me, if I'm not stepping on any toes by being here. I don't know how open-minded everyone is about allowing a male into the fold. I know I'll never be "one-of-the-girls" on this board, but I am interested in learning, understanding, and becoming a feminine being and I know all of you are the right people."

>>"Let me know if I can post my routine or if I should leave. I'm not here to make any trouble. Thank you for reading this post, it's important to me. I hope to make all of your acquaintance. Have a better than average day and take care..."


I must say that I am impressed. I have seen so many males like you just start posting as if this forum was meant for anyone. Well done.

Now, on to the subject at hand. This board is for Natural Breast Enlargement for women only. There are other boards and forums where men do engage in the activity. You can find them by searching on google using terms like "breast enlargement male forum message board" - things like that. It will take some looking. I am only aware of one (because I really haven't looked) only because male board there ( www.network54.com/Forum/547753/ ) was only created by the owner as a way to get the unwanted males off the female board by giving them a place to go. A very smart move if you ask me.

You mentioned being "open minded." It would amaze you how many males who come here are not open minded. Here are some reasons why males do not belong on a female board.

1. Most women do not feel comfortable posting on a board where there are males posting, present company included. Fewer women participating = less knowledge and experiences being shared = harm to the progression of BE for women.

2. When males get on a female board and start posting, many women do not know that they are males and start treating them like females. When the males have little or no success, the real women will get false data to judge themselves and their routines because they think everyone doing a program is female. This also results in more women giving up sooner = less knowledge and experiences being shared = harm to the progression of BE for women.

3. The process for growing breasts on women is heavily based on the menstrual cycle and female hormone profiles. Men simply do not have the same hormone levels at the same times for the same reasons. Men and women are not simply different, they are opposites in many ways. As the males post more and more, new females come on board and old ones leave. The males tell their friends, and soon you have a big discussion where no one is speaking the same language. This greatly enhances the problems explained in points #1 and #2 above.

Thank you for being so understanding. I have never seen a posting like this from a male who wants to grow breasts. But be advised that those who do not accept you are not being closed minded. They are being true to nature and their moral standard. The question is if you can accept them as they are and not judge them for their views.

Well, that was a long answer but there you have it. Males who want to grow breasts on themselves are discouraged from being on this board. It's not a matter of an open mind. It is a matter of this board being for natural breast enlargement for women only. Any men that post here do so with that understanding. They may have a wife whom they are helping, for example, and by sharing knowledge the success of all is increased. One way to keep the success high is to make sure that the issue is focussed and not confused, and that we are not comparing apples to oranges.

Wahaika

[madilyn]

Jun 15, 2009 7:49:07 GMT -5 @flatmama said:

HI Maddy,
Also, has you seen Eve's Forum? There is a male on there that has increased his breast size sucessfully.
FM

Thank you very much FM for replying to me. I was not aware of Eve's Forum and now I am. I took some time to read about the male (I think he goes by Cheryl) on Eve's Forum. I have nothing against this person, but our situations are not the same in the least.

He seems to have been conflicted about his gender identity from a very young age and has never come to grips with it. He made reference that he's always wanted to have female breasts and that he finally used NBE to obtain that result, yet he says that now that he has them that it's difficult to function without prejudice in society without dressing en femme and it's forcing him to live as a female. I'm sorry, but nobody but his body, heart, soul, and mind is forcing him to transition and live full-time as a female. Sometimes our indecision becomes our decision and that appears to be the case with him. I wish him luck in trying to figure it out...it's definitely confusing.

I, on the other hand, am not confused about my gender identity and have made a conscious decision to try NBE as an alternative feminization program to HRT. I know what I want and am working hard towards it. This forum has given me a wealth of knowledge and for that I will always be thankful.

Good luck with your NBE efforts and I appreciate your communication.

Regards,

Maddy

[madilyn]

Jun 15, 2009 11:09:56 GMT -5 Wahaika said:

>>"
I must say that I am impressed. I have seen so many males like you just start posting as if this forum was meant for anyone. Well done.

Wahaika

Hello Wahaika,

Thank you for replying and for your acknowledgement above. I didn't come here with the intention of impressing anyone...I merely wanted to find a home that I could feel comfortable learning about working a successful NBE Program. I figured you would be the one to address my introductory inquiry and I appreciate it.

I understand that a woman's path to NBE success is heavily tied-into their menstrual cycle and that I don't have that clock in my body. I do, however, also understand that the male and female breasts are basically the same in composition and that a male (minus testosterone) can have a successful NBE program if worked properly. That's why I came here. I wanted to learn about routines and study what herbs and cream receipes do and do-not work successfully...and I wanted to be somewhere positive where people are truly having success with NBE. There's a lot of negativity regarding it's success in some circles and I wanted to cut through that and land somewhere positive.

With that being said, I understand all of your points as to why males do not belong on a female board for BE and I respect that. Thank you for referring me to other boards and I will do my own additional research to find a community as friendly, open, caring, informative, and fun as this BE Board.

Thank all of you for being who you are and for sharing your information and knowledge so that others may benefit. I will not post a routine and will respectfully remove myself as a member here with no additional posts.

I wish you all much success and the best growth possible with your NBE efforts...you ladies have a special place here and I hope you realize and embrace that. Take care always...

With best wishes,

Madilyn Carey