Mom of 4 boys' routine

[momof4boys]

Hi,

I have been trying different routines over the past 5 months or so without any success. I was hoping Wen or any other senior member could give me some advice on my routine.

My stats:

age: 37
ht: 5'9"
wt: 130
children: 4 boys (ages 18 months - 7 yrs old)
breastfeed: all of them for 4-6 months
before I breastfed, I was a perky 34B now I am a saggy 34 A/very small B (my mom is a 36D and my sisters are both a small C)
under breast: 31"
across breast: 33.5"
above breast: 33"

I was very into sports in high school and didn't get my period until I was 15 and didn't really get boobs until I was 18 ( I also grew 2.5 inches in height at 18/19 yrs old) or so - not sure if all my long distance running delayed my growth

Right now, I play tennis 3xweek and walk/run occasionally.

I first tried BO (both with and w/o SP) for two months but only felt a tingle last 2-3 days, then gone.

I next tried Pammy's routine but never felt anything really... I am thinking that I ramped too quickly. I did get added cellulite to my thighs! Ugh!

So, I most recently tried this with slight tingles:

SP 2 pills 3X day
RC 2 pills 3X day
Maca 2 pills 3Xday (I thought that maybe I need balancing)
EPO 1 pill 3xday
Flax 1 pill 3Xday
1 multivitamin
1 kelp

I tried to massage but was not very consistent - I never did feel anything after massaging...maybe some fullness.

Lastly, I tried dowsing but I think I am one that cannot dowse accurately! How frustrating!

Please help me!

Sarah

[Wenonae]

Hi Sarah-

NBE can drive one nuts figuring it all out!
Dowsing- not your cup of tea. You're a permament Group 3 person.

Recommended BE list- actually, you don't need BE herbs, but you just need some balancing to get about 2 cups of growth. Lemme get back to you on this...gotta find the items.

Also, you need a mild cleanse due to your previous efforts- 1 cycle of 500mg milk thistle/day in morning on empty tummy and 1000mg of thyme (yes the seasing, but capsules) at nite b4 bed (2hrs MIN after eating). So start on this ASAP.

I'll get back to you about the rest asap.

Wen'

[momof4boys]

Thanks Wen. Your input is greatly appreciated. I did stop the herbs this past weekend so I will start the cleanse asap.

I do agree with the balancing! I was on BC for about 10 years in my 20's (both Ortho-tricyclen and Depo). I always had really light cycles (and many times skipped my period altogether) while on BC. Once I went off BC, I immediately got pregnant and had a miscarriage. Took over a year to get pregnant (with the help of Clomid) the first time. Subsequently, I got pregnant easily for the other children. After the birth of my last son and tubal ligation, my cycles have been very heavy and considerable acne/some PMS the week before AF (at least for me!).

Hopefully, BE can be possible for me! Thanks again for your quick response!

[Wenonae]

Found the items..you need 3.

1 anti-oxidant: quercetin (ProVex would be best www.melaleuca.com/ps/index.cfm?f=ps.productDetail&pid=3000&sCatId=2154)

1 herb: Mushroom www.vitacost.com/Maitake-Products-Mushroom-Wisdom-Super-Lions-Mane (will help your body to rite hormonally on its own in addition to words on bottle label)

1 external item: a essential oil lotion to help with skin www.puritan.com/pages/file.asp?xs=34D60A86796341C28F4BEB84C896DA25&PID=5510&CID=&CPID=8370 (current stretchmarks and add elasticity as breasts grow)


Routine recommendation over 5.5 months:

Month 1- Mush(2 caps @ nite, empty stomach), Provex (1 cap in morning, empty stomach)

Month 2- Mush(3 caps @ nite, empty stomach), Provex (1 cap in morning, empty stomach), massage until absorbed 1/2 teaspoon lotion rubbed between palms and on both breasts at nite b4 bed.

Month 3- Mush(2 caps @ nite, empty stomach), Provex (2 cap in morning, empty stomach), massage until absorbed 1/2 teaspoon lotion rubbed between palms and on both breasts at nite b4 bed.

Month 4- Mush(3 caps @ nite, empty stomach), Provex (1 cap in morning, empty stomach), massage until absorbed 2/3 teaspoon otion rubbed between palms and on both breasts at nite b4 bed.

Month 5- Mush(4 caps @ nite, empty stomach), Provex (2 cap in morning, empty stomach), massage until absorbed 2/3 teaspoon otion rubbed between palms and on both breasts at nite b4 bed.

Month 5.5- Stop Mush, Provex. Do dry massage for relief only.

Wen'

[momof4boys]

Thank you so much Wen! Will keep you posted on my progress.

Happy Growing!

[momof4boys]

SO, here's my update:

Did my cleanse for the rest of the month, then,

I followed my rountine for month 1 and no changes. Perhaps a little shrinkage if anything....

I am now starting month 2 and still do not see nor feel anything....I am hopeful that something, anything will happen...

Wen, do you have any suggestions...or should I continue to follow the plan??

[Wenonae]

Heya..the short answer is keep on what you're doing. You grew while preggers, rite? You already have fat cell walls, so you won't have much by way of sensations until 2 cycles from now. You've finished growing 0.1c of meats and you're due for 0.5c more this cycle.

You could take feverfew for about a mos (500mg/day) and speed things along by 20%, but it's not really that necessary.

Wen'

[momof4boys]

Thanks Wen for your quick reply. And yes, I did grow while preggers... I will keep the faith with my program! Keep you posted.

Sarah

[momof4boys]

Just a quick update and hopefully a good sign....

I have felt a few tingles, mostly in the late afternoon and my skin has broken out! Yuck...but from reading the other posts, this is a good sign?? I will try some tea tree oil and other over the counter stuff....

Wen - any suggestions for a sleep aid? I am having difficulty (and have for some time) falling and staying asleep. I try 500mg of Valerian but no results...

[Wenonae]

Hee..acne is a prime (if irritating) sign..as are tingles . For treating your acne..topical benzoyl peroxide wash like "Clean and Clear" should help a lot. Tea tree oil will irritate your skin.

Sleeping aid- Lavender EO will knock you out. Place a 1-2 drops in a bowl/plate on a night stand near your bed about 20 minutes before you go to sleep. Add 1 drop a nite for 5 nites. You'll be remedied pretty quick to sleep on your own as soon as your head hits the pillow.

Wen'

[momof4boys]

So, here's my update. I just started month 5 and no changes. I did have a few tingles and pains last month but no growth. I will finish the rest of my program and hopefully, figure out a new plan. This is so frustrating!

Not sure what to try next....or just give up.

[Wenonae]

Hiya...hope you get this sooner than later.
You have had a physical block for about 2 cycles. Simple aromatherapies will help you get going again. I saying like after you finish this..you may WANT to have a break from sensations, soreness, and itching.

You need to use Lemongrass
For 3 days, put add 6 drops/nite on a plate by your bed. It seems you have enough stress to suppress BE action. Here's info on Lemon grass: www.bodyecology.com/07/03/15/lemongrass.php

Post back when you have more updates,
Wen'

[momof4boys]

Thanks Wen - I will give Lemongrass a try. And yes, you are right about the stress. I have been going thru the most stressful time in my life but had hoped it did not effect my BE.

Do you think I should repeat months 3 or 4 on my program?

You are so great - thanks for giving me advice and support. I hope you know how much all of us appreciate you!

[Wenonae]

Sept 21, 2008 19:15:58 GMT -5 momof4boys said:

Thanks Wen - I will give Lemongrass a try. And yes, you are right about the stress. I have been going thru the most stressful time in my life but had hoped it did not effect my BE.

Do you think I should repeat months 3 or 4 on my program?

You are so great - thanks for giving me advice and support. I hope you know how much all of us appreciate you!

;D Thanks for the thanks. Yeah..good ole cortisol spikes will stop a BE program cold. You don't need to re-do the previous 2 months, your body's going to push to catch back up- leveraging what's already in your system. .

Wen'

[momof4boys]

Hi Wen,

Quick question - I am at the end of my 2nd week of month 5. Is this when I stop or do I continue to the end of the month?

No growth, no pains. Will I feel some when I stop? Do you have any additional insight to my lack of growth?

Thanks!
Sarah