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Post by alrani on May 5, 2006 21:44:36 GMT -5
I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I don't think that "exercise & BE don't mix" is correct at all. Breasts arn't JUST made of fats, there's alot more than just fats in the breast. I have a friend, who is the biggest fitness freak ever. Ever since she was about 13, she went running every day for an hour. She's 18 now and has stepped it up ALOT to a 1hr run in the morning, swimming & weight training in the afternoon. Keep in mind she's been doing this since early adolescence, which many people might see as a warning flag for extremely small breast size. Wrong, wrong, wrong. She has THE BIGGEST boobs I have ever seen! She's she same size as me, but has about a DD cup. Just for the record, her family history is medium-sized boobs, and she has a younger sister (only a year younger) with MUCH smaller boobs than her. Don't be fooled or scared! Exercise CAN be done while you're growing. I wouldn't recommend a routine like my friends if you're just starting BE though, but don't be afraid to do exercise at the same time. It's impossible to gain fats on just ONE area of the body and nowhere else. BE is a combination of overall weight gain, and gain in the breast tissues such as mammory glands and ducts. Keep exercising ladies! It's good for you
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Post by annie on May 5, 2006 21:53:33 GMT -5
thanks alarni, i have been excercising for i was gaining weight espcially on my waist and tummy. really dont want a big belly.m take care
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Post by alrani on May 6, 2006 6:10:05 GMT -5
good luck with your weight loss routine! i think it's misleading to say that exercise = bad when it comes to BE, because it can help with reducing fat on certain areas of the body which will enhance the appearance of your breasts.
A. xo
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Post by tammyrita on May 6, 2006 12:26:09 GMT -5
Hi,
I totally agree with you. I just bought a bowflex in the middle of Feb. and have noticed some changes: 1.) My growing pains in breasts have become stronger 2.) Of course I'm becoming more toned but not losing any inches off bustline
I'm not sure if exercise would be beneficial to all BE routines, but it has mine!
Tammy
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Post by alrani on May 6, 2006 18:19:31 GMT -5
Personally, i think exercise would definately be beneficial! There are SO many benefits to being healthy! By doing exercise (particularly aerobic/endurance exercise like jogging, running, swimming etc) you increase blood flow and help circulation. Overall health is crucial in growing teenagers, and since most BE products fool the body into thinking its back in puberty, why not keep exercising during BE growth?
The whole "exercise & BE don't mix" thing is quite misleading. The best thing you can do to a growing body is keep it healthy.
A. xo
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Post by tweetysweety on May 10, 2006 16:01:11 GMT -5
whats a bowflex?
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Post by tammyrita on May 10, 2006 21:27:19 GMT -5
Hi tweetysweety,
Bowflex is a home gym based on resistance training.
Tammy
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Post by Wahaika on May 10, 2006 23:34:19 GMT -5
The reason exercise & BE "don't mix" is not because exercise is bad for BE. It is because rapid weight loss is, and many women take up exercise to try and lose weight as fast as they can. This is bad for BE because one of the body's survival mechanisms in order to stay healthy is that accumulated fat comes off organs first, as an order of priority.
>>"BE is a combination of overall weight gain, and gain in the breast tissues such as mammory glands and ducts."
This is not quite accurate, although fat can accumulate in other places with cells that have estrogen receptors due to the use of internals. BE is an exercise in filling estrogen receptors with phytoestrogens, which weakly bind. All fat cells do not have estrogen receptors, and there are other ways to gain fat than to fill estrogen receptors. Filling insulin receptors is part of another process. If one were to do only externals (massage) then the target area would be the only place affected unless the phytoestrogens went deep enough to get into the blood stream or lymphatic system, which is why you only want a drop or two of DMSO when it is used.
>>"It's impossible to gain fats on just ONE area of the body and nowhere else."
Again, the use of externals only can target the area of application, just as the use of something that blocks Alpha 2 adrenoceptors, such as yohimburn, can increase fat burning where it is locally applied.
I don't mean to be too persnickity about all of this but it had to be said. Basically, exercise is OK, but exercise to lose weight comes in two varieties; lose weight fast, lose weight slow. Rapid weight loss is bad for BE. Slow weight loss can be compatible. Exercise is not necessarily bad, or good, for BE, it just depends.
BTW, I am a bit proponent of exercise, generally speaking.
My 2 cents,
Wahaika
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Post by louig on May 11, 2006 9:01:37 GMT -5
Just another couple of points to add, when exercising to loose weight, you will loose the fat recently put on, as it is readily available, the stuff on the top of the pile so to speak, which if you’re doing a BE routine, is likely to be on the breasts. One of the reasons it can be hard to loose that last bit, as it's been there a while and takes longer to break down (plus body getting used to exercise, etc).
I know that Fawn and Pammy, 2 very successfully NBEers both lost boobage when they increased their exercise during a routine to loose the weight they had gained, which is why they recommended trying to loose the weight gained during a routine, after you have finished the routine.
However, as moderate exercise is good for getting you’re body working on all cylinders, and is supposed to help regulate your hormones, plus increase HGH & Prolactin (but only for the first 10-15mins), I think there is definitely a place for moderate exercise in a routine, it could infact be beneficial, as I’ve read at least one NBE’er say she had shooting pains after exercising. But as everyone is different...
(Hopefully someone will correct me on any of that if I’m wrong.)
And not that I have success to comment!
Like Wahaika, just my 2 pence woth,
L x
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Post by louig on May 11, 2006 9:33:58 GMT -5
Should also point out that your body carries on growing til 21-23 then it starts to slow down. Which is why you are told you can still carry on growing ‘til this age. My aunty told me she had a growth spurt at 22, I was 16 I thought that was far too long away at the time, but I did have a spurt at 19 and again at 21 (likely to of been the pill second time, went upto 34C, oh I long for those days!) 2 of my friends both had spurts in their 20’s, one at 21 the other at 23/24. During teenage years + your hormones are at a level not repeated until pregnancy and even then, not all are as high as when you are a teenager. It's where the NBE theory comes from, trying to duplicate what happened during puberty.
A friend at school was County (State) long distance runner, played Hockey Netball, Long jump and High Jump for local sports club , she was a 36FF (and 6’’2’!), another friend at school was a county swimmer, trained at least 5 hrs a day morning evening, comps at weekend, she was a 34D. As your body is at it’s peak with hormones it is likely that for some people exercise during puberty/teenage years will increase breast size, when HGH and other growing hormones are at their highest, pushing them a bit more. I was also very athletic, county Javelin, Netball and Hockey team, but it didn’t help me, although I was a 34B I still wasn’t happy!, 32AA now:(
So for those under 21-23, exercise does stand a better chance of increasing boobage than those older, but then so does NBE generally so good luck, you lucky ladies!
L x
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Post by alrani on May 12, 2006 4:05:52 GMT -5
Wahaika: I am aware of the things you pointed out, particularly about BE and fat gain. By saying what I did, I meant overall FAT weight gain, as well as gain in breast tissue and mammary glands etc. Also, when I referred to the impossibility of gaining fats in one section of the body, I meant without the use of BE externals, as in by eating fatty foods etc. I understand what you are saying about LOSING WEIGHT with exercise, however that was not the point of this post. This section of the board is called "fitness", after all, and not "weight loss" This post was made to enforce the importance of exercise in keeping overall fitness and health, and NOT to promote over-exercise as a weight loss method. I just think that the comment "Exercise and BE don't mix" is misleading, and the women on this board should not be mislead into thinking that exercise = bad. loug: Yes, I am aware of how fats on the breasts generally dissapear first with exercise and I'm glad you agree with me about the importance of exercise in maintaining balance within the body I just thought I should mention some more. What I was trying to say in this post, is that my friend is extremely fit and healthy, with barely any un-needed fat on her body, and yet is able to have (and keep) her breast size. It is known that muscles that have been maintained can burn fat even without exercising. There are women out there who are naturally very thin with very large breasts; they arnt just blobs of fat on their chests. Some women who lose weight still maintain their original breast size because their breasts happen to have more tissue and mammary mass than fat mass. I'm not sure if anyone else has thought of it this way, but it makes perfect sense to me: Estrogen is the primary female sex hormone. It controls the primary sex organs (uterus, fallopian tubes, ovaries) moreso than the secondary sex organs (breasts). This is why some women experience spotting/breakthrough bleeding/ period cramps when on BE, because the increased amount of estrogen has an increased effect on the *primary* sex organs before the *secondary* sex organs. So, we all know that the breasts arn't JUST made of fats, correct? They are made of tissues, milk ducts, glands, and a layer of fats. We know that the breasts are controlled by estrogen, and that breast development occurs during puberty when hormones are at their peak levels. We also know that there is *generally* more breast tissue (glands, ducts, etc) within the breast than fats (depending on the overall weight of the woman). So, when we begin BE, we increase the levels of estrogen flowing within our bodies, to mimic the effects of puberty, correct? Where do these breast tissues, glands and ducts come from during puberty? Why, estrogen, of course! If you think of it this way, it makes far more sense that during BE, the primary reason the breasts increase in size is because of the increase in growing breast tissues. This is why we feel growth pains. I dont ever remember feeling any growth pains when I gained more fat around my hips, bum and thighs during puberty, except for the odd painful stretch mark. By beginning a BE routine, we're increasing the breast *mass* AS WELL AS the layer of fat ontop of the breast. Women who are doing BE should not be afraid their breasts will deflate completely if they begin jogging for 40 minutes everyday. I just want to promote exercise in keeping the body healthy, not as a form of weight loss. Sorry for such a long comment! Hopefully my post will make more sense, and be clearer now Happy growing!
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Post by max on May 12, 2006 7:13:25 GMT -5
Alrani,
This makes perfect sense to me and it brings some relief. I am in the military and we are required to exercise 3x a week for at least 1.5 hrs (some of us cheat and only do it for 45min I've known some people not to at all but we get tested every year) I am trying to grow at the same time though i focus more on weightlifting than cardio. I think that it might take longer to grow though than if I didn't do anything because of the stress exercise puts your body through, but I think overall I will be happier because it is very very difficult for me to lose weight with my genetics and all. Thank you for the info it's nice to know my efforts to grow won't be futile.
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Post by alrani on May 13, 2006 4:43:24 GMT -5
Of course exercise is one of *the* most important things to do to keep your body in peak physical condition, so it makes sense to do it while you're growing (especially adolescents going through puberty - which is what BE routines aim to imitate). It's excellent that you're exercising as much as you are, but you should try to keep a balance between cardio and weight training. I don't think weight training will hinder your growth too much though. The only time it might become an issue is if you're training to be a body builder! (which you probably arn't ) Try not to stress your body out too much. Go slow, and know your limits Happy growing!
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Post by max on May 15, 2006 7:13:07 GMT -5
You are right, I am not trying to look like a body builder! I am just trying to be in the best shape possible. Which is turning out to be alot harder than I expected it to be, somedays I have to force myself out of bed to workout, because my mind is like you could workout later today after work and I know this is not true cause I don't want to do anything after work. *sigh* wish exercise was easier.
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Post by alrani on May 16, 2006 3:36:40 GMT -5
Yeah, it is pretty hard One thing I find fun and motivating is doing it with friends! Me and a friend go to her gym a few times a week and bring her laptop so we can play "motivating" music and encourage eachother. We call it "revengercise" because we're jokingly rivalling two other friends who go to a different gym The best way to go about exercise is not to take it too seriously. Have fun Find something you really enjoy, whether it be walking, running, swimming etc. and do it with friends! Maybe organise a weekly tennis comp with some pals? Think of inventive ways to get out and moving It makes it feel like less of a chore AND you feel 100x better afterwards good luck and happy growing!
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