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Post by Moderator on Nov 9, 2003 17:07:19 GMT -5
From: gigi Sent: 5/7/2003 10:32 PM Thanks Fawn, That was a very comprehensive response to the action of Saw Palmetto. Since I still have some extract I'll start using that topically when I'm ready to add on to my regimen. The herbs have facilitated a 5 pound weight gain in addition to 5 pounds gained due to a slowing metabolism. I used to have a problem keeping the weight on and now it won't come off! Perhaps the yohimburn will affect some of the fat deposits. I really appreciate your response regarding the timing of dosages in the presence of food. I spent almost a year, squandered to some extent I'm sure, by taking these herbal caps and extracts incorrectly. The suggestion of protein heavier nutrition was made to me a few times but it finally makes sense. I've already readjusted my protocol to implement this information. Thanks again. gigi
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Post by Moderator on Nov 9, 2003 17:07:38 GMT -5
From: Elenacamro Sent: 7/15/2003 8:42 PM Hi! actually, Breeze, saw palmetto does boost the libido while being an anti-androgen, indeed. I know it sounds crazy, but it is possible... that's because there is not only one form of testosterone molecules. There are many types and kinds of male hormones, so when we say "testosterone", we might actually be referring to one of those various kinds of androgenic molecules and substances. There is one kind of testosterone that is related to male and female hair loss, increased oil production by sebaceous glands, hirsutism, policystic ovarian syndrome, among other side effects, which is the 5- (something) sorry I can't recall it now androsterone.Some women make more or it , or do produce it in normal amounts but are way sensitive to the male hormones in their bodies and get some of the "bad" side effects from some of those male hormones. Men also get "bad" side effects from some forms of male hormoens, and trhe enlargement of the prostate is one of them, for example. Saw is a substance that does not really act as an anti-ALL androgens, but inhibits the action of some "bad" forms of testosterone AND help at letting the NATURAL progesterones role to be fulfilled more efficiently in the body. See, sometimes, male hormones "take the place" of progesterone in the woman's body and/or the woman's body does not take full advantage of the progesterone she is actually producing because of the the male hormones' excess or oversensitivity getting on the way. Saw palmetto promotes the production and full use of the natural progesterone while inhibiting the action of that "bad" form of make hormones. So it acts as an anti-androgen in a way, while helping the body to take better advantage of the natural progesterone. And the "good" thing about NATURAL progesterone (not the synthetic kind of progesterone, that one kind of has the opposite effects sometimes) is that it increases the sex drive and regulates the production and action of estrogens, regulating hormonal imbalances and helping estrogen make its work in a better way (so if your boobs were small out of a certain lack of estrogen, they will benefit from the progesterone action increasing the estrogen action). Hope it didn't sound too confusing!
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Post by Moderator on Nov 9, 2003 17:07:53 GMT -5
From: fawnmarie42 Sent: 7/15/2003 10:37 PM Elenacamro, Where'd you find the data on testosterone blocking progesterone? I'd love to read it. The type of testosterone that is said to be blocked by saw palmetto is referred to is DHT, which is a heck of a lot easier to remember. I haven't noticed any improvement in libido with saw palmetto use - in fact the opposite. Herbs that work on progesterone receptors (red clover, damiana) are both known to both improve sex drive and my experience with damiana seems to bear that out. fawn
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