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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:29:39 GMT -5
From: Vicky5012 (Original Message) Sent: 5/15/2003 12:37 PM
Hello, everyone This is to Fawn and those of you who may have any ideas regarding the following: I was thinking about how I always deposit fat below my waist: butt, thighs,hips. Even if I gain wait or loose wait - it always goes there and never to my breasts. Even when I was pregnant and gained weight, all of it went to my butt and thighs. I did not have any increase in breast size during my preganancies... this only happened after child birth and during lactation ( even then I was only able to get to full A). SO, the big question is , if being on BO has a potential to produce results in terms of increasing breast size.? Taking BO suppose to deposit fat on to the breast tissue... correct? If that is the case and I was never , ever able to do that.... perhaps I am doing this all in vein... perhaps I am genetically programmed to deposit fat only below my waist... and it will never be deposited elsewhere, i.e breasts. ( I am 39 yrs old, on BO - Bob's protocol since Feb 03 with no results , size 34AAA). Is my reasoning making any sense or am I completely off...? I would really appreciate you comments and any suggestions you may have. Thanks!!! Vic
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:30:25 GMT -5
From: Gïna Sent: 5/15/2003 1:11 PM
Vic, your reasoning is on target. Some of us are going to stay this way due to our genetic predisposition to storing fat below the waist. I don't see any way around it if our estrogen receptors are in our lower body saying, "come here fat, I'm waiting for you. My mother used to say I carried my babies in my butt since that is where my blimping up took place. I did get huge boobs during breastfeeding but mostly the first time. He was the largest baby with the biggest appetite and the size was all milk. Not fat. I'd love there to be a different answer but I think we are fooling ourselves if we think we can get past this genetic truth. Gina
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:31:39 GMT -5
From: BrilliantMishelly Sent: 5/15/2003 1:41 PM
Hiya Vic, You said: Taking BO suppose to deposit fat on to the breast tissue... correct? Well, we just aren't sure! I believe one line of thought, as to how BO works, is that taking BO stimulates your ovaries to start producing more estrogen, and estrogen makes ppl gain weight in different places, some get the extra padding on the butt and thighs, some on the boobs. I've always been pretty small in the upper half of my body, waist to collarbone is kinda boney, but my hips and rear is hmmm super curvy, and this where I always gain weight. Even when I'm skinny I have a big booty I kid ya not! So for me, BO has been (thankfully) helping my body to deposit fat in the needed spots~on my chest! Gina is so right, genetics plays a big role in how BO works out for you. Hope this helps a lil bit, mishelly
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:31:57 GMT -5
From: fawnmarie42 Sent: 5/15/2003 2:48 PM
The reason you gained AFTER pregnancy is because estrogen was high, while progesterone was low. Most gain during pregnancy is during the first trimester (higher estrogen/lower progesterone), last trimester or AFTER birth. Progesterone drops when the placenta is removed and doesn't start up again til the next ovulation (usually not right away - especially when nursing). Although it is true that there is a genetic basis to fat distribution - and that MOST women deposit fat below the waist, may I also ask if you are following 'Bob's Protocol' - are you including the progesterone on days 14-26 as his protocol suggests? No one is exactly sure how BO works - it does stimulate the ovaries to produce more estrogen. It may also add estrogen (as it does when used by men). It may also stimulate the ovaries to produce more progesterone. May I suggest that if it does, then adding even MORE progesterone might be keeping you from storing any fat in your breasts, since progesterone does "block" estrogen receptors. Are you using a topical? From the survey - although NOT as thorough as I would have liked - there is a very clear correlation between using BO & progesterone = no growth and using BO & progesterone AND a topical = growth. So what parts of Bob's protocol are you using, exactly? And yes - I certainly believe that is is not going to work for ALL women. Fawn
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:33:14 GMT -5
From: dishrag Sent: 5/15/2003 2:56 PM
Vic, you have my body. Thank-you. I'm not the only one. What topical are y'all using with BO and Progesterone (is that a cream?) dish
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:33:29 GMT -5
From: fatso Sent: 5/15/2003 4:58 PM
Ladies, before you spend another dime on BE, why not lipo the fat out of the thighs first, that way any extra fat will go to the top. I hear you all. I have a boy body with no curves what so ever yet my lower half gets most of the fat anyway. fatso
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:33:47 GMT -5
From: Hippychick555 Sent: 5/15/2003 5:06 PM
Hey I know!!!! Suck it out of the lower body and inject that fat in the boobs. Hippychick
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:34:05 GMT -5
From: Mominator5 Sent: 5/15/2003 5:11 PM
Hey Hippiechick, I've been wanting a "butt transplant" for years! I would be wearing cheeks on my chest. But if I every needed open heart surgery, it would certainly give a new meaning "Crack the chest open". Just couldn't resist! Mominator
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:34:24 GMT -5
From: Hippychick555 Sent: 5/15/2003 5:24 PM
Hey Momma: Good One!!! The options could be endless. Feet too big, Nose too long...... You know that they say recycling is good for our enviroment.... Hippychick
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:35:17 GMT -5
From: fatso Sent: 5/15/2003 8:11 PM
Just had a thought about all this stuff. One of my friend's sister had a breast reduction about 10 years ago and I saw her recently, and guess what! Her breast grew back but not as big. She went from an E or bigger to a small C. She was so happy with it that she ate like a horse and got fat all in her butt and thigh area within that first year. (For years she had been keeping track of her eating so as not to gain ANY weight in her breast, as a result she had these really great shapely leggs and butt.) Soon after her surgery she moved and I did not see her for 10 years. Now I would say she is at least a small DD or a very large D. And not only that, her legs and butt have seem to strunk. So what happened? Is it genetics or hormones? Maybe both? fatso
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:35:49 GMT -5
From: BrilliantMishelly Sent: 5/15/2003 8:38 PM
Fatso, I have a friend from high school who had a breast reduction in grade 12, and her breasts have grown since the reduction, she is back to a D, but her pre-reduction size was a DD so it hasn't all come back. Who knows what causes it hey?!? Also, in health psyc last semester, our teacher brought in some absolutely horrible lipo pics, to show us that fat CAN regrow into the lipo'd areas, despite many the fact that many ppl believe it doesn't happen. All I can say is EWWWWWW~it does regrow for some people and it looks twenty times as bad as the nastiest cellulite I've ever seen on really overweight ppl...just a head's up for some of da ladies talkin/jokin? about lipo. Momi/Happy Chick, I too, have often thought about gettin some of dat butt fat transplanted to my boobs!! It'll be possible in my life time, won't it?! hehehe if only... mishelly
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:36:12 GMT -5
From: Mominator5 Sent: 5/15/2003 8:43 PM
Mishelly, Aaaaaah! (mominator sighs!) One day, mishelly, one day!
Momi'
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:36:37 GMT -5
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:37:10 GMT -5
From: gigi Sent: 5/15/2003 10:41 PM
Hi mommabean, Not to rain on anyone's parade but several years ago there was a feature on one of the news programs examining various methods of breast augmentation. They covered liposuction. The fat removed from areas below the waist was reprocessed and placed between the skin and muscle of the breast. After a specified amount of time (can't remember the details) a majority of women who had the procedure lost half of the volume and developed calcifications. The thinking originally was that because the fat was the patient's own there would be limited rejection and complications. It didn't quite work out. gigi
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Post by Moderator on Nov 11, 2003 13:38:10 GMT -5
From: Vicky5012 Sent: 5/16/2003 7:16 AM
Hi, there Ok - I will start from the beginning.... A few years ago I was on MTH board and tried herbs/topical creams for 6 months with no results ( was on greenbush/wonderup and then at the end did something similar to Pammy's routine, i.e bought individual herbs like fennel, fenugreek, SW,etc). During that time I also used (1) infused fenugreel/fennel (in olive oil) and (2) made my own wild yam cream ( James' recipy )I had absolutely no reaction and no results. I was hoping that after having kids, I may have a chance to get minimal increase- but it was not meant to be. I only had decent boobs during breastfeeding... both times it was duting winter time when I could not go out and show them off... also my hubby and me could not really enjoy them too much... cause I was just too tired... Anyhow, I started Bob's protocol on 13 Feb 03 : BO ( from DNE) and progesterone days 12-26 / EPO massage and geranium/fennel in apricot/vit e oils massages plus protein shakes, all other vitamins, supplements (MSM, EPO, Calcium, multivit, pregnenolone, DHEA). I did this for 2 cycles but during my 3rd cycle I had problems with shippment of my BO order, so I had to stop everyting for a few weeks. I started everything again with my 4th cycle and this time I will not use progesterone cream because, if your recall, Fawn, I have naturally high progesterone and you suggested that I discontinue it all together. I will also disc. DHEA as I have increased facial hair. SO, I do everything that I suppose to : BO/no progesterone/topical applicaion with heat. I could probably accept my breast size if I would be anorexic 95 lbs, but I am 5'2, 117 lbs with the biggest cellulite butt/tighs below the waist and above the waist- nipples only. I really think that my only option is to get implants ( my sister did). Many years ago I went to see a plastic surgeon for consultation... but never went through with it... Vic
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