Lastborngoddess' Routine

[lastborngoddess]

Hi,

I move from the Newbees here, hopefully with some luck attached .

UNDERBUST: 27.5"
BUST: 30.5" (strange, I know )

AGE:25
WEIGHT: 106 lbs.
HEIGHT: 5'20"
No Children

Started BE on March 2nd.

In the first 2 weeks, started with the F2F:

Three times a day:

375 mg Red Clover
620 mg Fenugreek
2*580 mg Saw Palmetto

Then, following HoneeBee's advice, I took out 3 SP's a day and also replaced Red Clover with Wild Yam. So my present routine is:

Three times a day:

Saw Palmetto 580mg
Wild Yam 425mg
Fenugreek 620mg

I have been massaging in the morning with Licorice + Hops (now only Hops since I understand Licorice cannot be used for more than 4 weeks) and Fenugreek in the night. I only bought the heating pads 5 days ago, but I use them conscientiously ever since (15-20 minutes after massage).

Like I sadly said before, I have no pains, itches, growth whatsoever in all this time. I really hope you can give me some tips on where could be the reason of my stalling .

Today my new Betterlife order just arrived and I now have to see (with your help ) how I can ramp up safely with the herbs I have available:

Fenugreek,
Wild Yam,
Red Clover
Saw Palmetto
Fennel seed,
Fennel extract,
Peppermint Oil,
Ylang Ylang Oil,
Geranium Oil,
Evening Primrose Oil,
Borage Liquid Gold and
Multivitamins.

Any input is highly appreciated

[lastborngoddess]

Pleaseeee, some help for me...I am not progressing

[gigi]

You've only been doing this for a little over a month. That's not enough time to make a determination as to whether you're stalling.

[Wahaika]

Fenugreek 620mg
Wild Yam 425mg
Saw Palmetto 580mg

OK

Could try:

Massage with Fennel Extract, Ylang Ylang Oil and Geranium Oil. Get rid of the hops and licorice. You could add Red Clover if it is in extract form. You should consider a drop or two ( but no more) of DMSO.

Take your multi. Take 1 gram of Borage just before bedtime - maybe before the night massage.

Skip mic cycle day and Day 1 of your cycle. Add another Fenugreek after the next cycle starts and wait - see if you get any growing pains. You could also add Saw Palmetto at that time.

Wahaika

[lastborngoddess]

Thanks, Wahaika!

I added Fennel 3 capsules a day, was that a bad move ?

I take my multi and 1000 mg EPO a day.

For the massage, I produced a batter of fenugreek extract, fennel extract, geranium oil, borage oil (only in the evening), ylang ylang oil, peppermint oil. Sounds fine?

I also have some Fenugreek 180 mg, should I add that also?

[Wahaika]

Yep, you might want to back out the fennel for now. Did you ramp it up slowly or just add it?

The batter looks good. No need to add the extra fenugreek.

Are you feeling anything yet? You might need to use extracts and take it really slow.

[lastborngoddess]

Oops, the fennel I just added, unfortunately...for the rest I took it slowly, like you said in that topic with ramping up, but now I forgot about that and took all 3 in one day...I will take it out, ok.

And no, I am still insensitive , no pains whatsoever.

Thanks again, W!!!

[lastborngoddess]

after 7 weeks...still no sign of hope...what is happening, why is it that I get no feeling at all?!?

[lastborngoddess]

Ok, first day of Cicle 3. What do I change? I had no results at all with the routine above. Please give a helping hand .

[joyful1]

Have you tried slowly ramping up each herb. Example:

Day 1- 1 FG 1X
Day 2- 1 FG 2X
Day 3- 1 FG 3X
Day 4-Same as day 3 but add 1 SP 1X
Day 5 Same as day 4 but 1 SP 2X
Day 6- Same as day 5 but 1 SP 3X
Day 7- 1 FG 3X, 1 SP 3X, 1 WY 1X
Day 8- 1 FG 3X, 1 SP 3X, 1 WY 2X
Day 9- 1 FG 3X, 1 SP 3X, 1 WY 3X
Watch for signs of growth- pain, itches- if you get any of these, stop where you are at. Continue at this rate until no more pain
I did this and added EPO and finally figured out that I had pain when I removed EPO. If you slowly ramp each herb one at a time, you might be able to figure out which ones are good and bad. Maybe you've already done this. Just an idea. I'm going to try the teas too.

[lastborngoddess]

Thanks, Joyful, indeed this is how I introduced all herbs into my routine in the first place...what went wrong was that I stated with Red CLover which is not recommended so I took it out after a while, also put in Fennel and then removed it after Wahaika's advice...and still nothing seems to do the trick...

This month is my last try, I am willing to struggle this one as well and then if still nothing I will say goodbye .

I think I should now stick to the 3 Wild Yam, Fenugreek and SP per day and ramp up with something...but with what and how?

[snowqueen67]

look, just a thought...but have you considered a hypnosis cd? The free download, which is linked somewhere here is excellent..I used it when I started out, and it really helped me "get the feeling" of my breasts growing.

I mean after all our brain controls our bodily function, so if we could convince it to grow breasts..............

good luck, I know it gets hard to hang in there.

rebecca

[lastborngoddess]

Hi, Rebecca and thanks girls for being here for me, it really helps with the motivation :*.

I did try to listen once a day to the 6 minute free track found on that free download site, but I gave up after like a month I think...probably my brain is so stubborn ...

[Wahaika]

lastborngoddess,

Can you give an update of what your routine currently is?

Don't get discouraged. It's just a matter of time. In some women's cases it has taken as long as 5 years before they found what worked for them.

Do you have access to DMSO?

Wahaika

[lastborngoddess]

Hi back, Wahaika

My routine was:

3 times a day

Saw Palmetto 580mg
Wild Yam 425mg
Fenugreek 620 mg

I ramped up Fenugreek at 3000 g a day since today. Plus Multivitamin once a day and EPO 1000 gr a day.

Massage (followed by heat) morning with fennel extract, geranium oil, ylang ylang oil, peppermint oil and evening with fenugreek extract, fennel extract, geranium oil, borage oil, ylang ylang oil.

No, I have no access to DMSO...the other stuff I have at hand and I don't use because I was recommended to take them out earlier on, here, are caps of Red Clover and Fennel and licorice and hops extract...

I am all ears for any little tip to change something...how long should I wait to see if the new dosage of 3000 g of Fenugreek was a good idea? Should I also add more of the stuff I have?

Thanks a lot!!