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Post by shakira8 on Sept 2, 2005 10:12:25 GMT -5
Hello girls,this is my routine!!! Started on Aug 1rst Morning: 2x610mg Fenugreek 1x1000mg SP 1x1000EPO Noon: 1x610mg Fenugreek 1x1000mg SP 1x1250mg Flax seed oil Bedtime: 2x610mg Fenugreek 1x1000mg SP 1x1000mg EPO 1x1250mg Flax seed oil I also take 1x500mg Spirulina,a 25g protein shake every morning and try to have a 25g natural protein meal during the day(usually tuna fish or chicken).Oh,and I have a cup of fennel/green tea every afternoon!  Before bedtime I massage with boobie butter that I made using: 2 tablespoons of olive oil 2 " " of body milk(korres) 10 fenugreek caps(powder mixes fine with the body milk) 10 EPO caps (I squeeze the oil out) 5 drops of rose perfume to cover the fenugreek/EPO smell. I do 200 inward and 100 outward rotations,I don't apply heat but I get the "feelings" anyway  |
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Post by shakira8 on Sept 22, 2005 7:45:24 GMT -5
September!!! Well,didn't change my routine at all so my totals are still : 3000mg SP 3050mg Fenugreek 2000mg EPO 2500mg Flax Oil I still have spirulina,protein shakes+fennel tea every day and I keep doing the massages. I have growing pains ALL the time but no growth yet.I bought a good multivitamin that contains vitamins,minerals and amino-acids but I'm taking it once or twice a week coz I think my diet is healthy and provides me all the right nutrients.Maybe I'll add a bit of fennel+Wild Yam on October BUT ONLY in small dosages,just to check if they're any good for me,don't wanna make the pain go away(doesn't this sound crazy to normal people  ? |
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Post by shakira8 on Sept 29, 2005 13:59:19 GMT -5
October!!!
Not gonna change anything BUT I'll try adding 1-3 fennel caps(480mg each) and a cap of WY (500mg) and see what happens.When I decide which dosage suits me I'll let you know!I still got growing pains but not the shooting pains I used to have during my first mont of BE.Hope I'll make them come back...
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Post by shakira8 on Sept 30, 2005 9:16:35 GMT -5
Hey,I got them back!I'm gonna take 1 cap of WY+2 caps of fennel along with my other herbs..Maybe further down the road I'll add another,dunno!Well,for now I'm just happy I got my pains back,yay!
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Post by prettysoulful on Oct 14, 2005 16:25:37 GMT -5
shakira8, have you considered trying SP extract instead of berries. I use 1-360mg cap a day, and it has been consistently helpful. Also, have you considered reducing your fenugreek to about 100-1500mg per day. Then you can add more on a weekly bases until you begin to feel/see some signs of growth. Perhaps during your cycle you can stop all herbs, then start back with the new amounts when your cycle ends. I usually drop all herbs during my cycle and it seems to keep me from stalling.
Good luck, and let me know what you think of these suggestions.
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Post by shakira8 on Oct 15, 2005 3:10:33 GMT -5
Hey Pretty,thanx for the quick response!
I have high testosterone levels,thats why I take so much SP.As for switching to extracts,well,I got 4bottles of pills so I couldn't afford buying smth else right now.I tried to cut down on my fenugreek but I lost my sensations.I think my routine is right for me coz it gives me the pains-but not the growth till now,grrr! About dropping the herbs during my cycle..hmmm...that sounds really interesting,I think I'll do that coz I always had stronger feelings after my period!Yep,I'll do that when my next period comes and see how that goes!Thanx Pretty!
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Post by jeanne on Oct 15, 2005 3:16:46 GMT -5
shakira,
Correct me if i'm wrong. But SP prohibits prolactin. This is what i got from the readings i have. Too much SP will reduce the growth. Wish you success. I think i'm goin to start exactly the same as your routine, except for lower SP.
Jeanne
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Post by shakira8 on Oct 15, 2005 3:46:09 GMT -5
SP lowers testosterone,not prolactin!It's a good anti-androgen and you should take it to keep your testosterone low!Ifyou have low test. 1g is enough but if it's high then you should ramp up slowly as time goes by!
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Post by kris10 on Oct 15, 2005 20:02:21 GMT -5
I upped my SP too(high test.) and it worked well for me. I think I need to reduce my fenugreek a little, though when i start again. Not too sure yet. Shakira, I got shooting pains too....not tingling. Well, more like stabbing with a needle pain. All of it is gone now though as I am off NBE for a little bit. Good Luck to you. Kristen |
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Post by shakira8 on Oct 16, 2005 3:23:50 GMT -5
Way to go Kris  !!! Isn't it the best kind of pain you can feel? Hey,don't we sound like S/M fans or what? |
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Post by shakira8 on Nov 4, 2005 8:36:16 GMT -5
November!!! Well,sticking to my routine for this month too so my totals are still : 3000mg SP 3050mg Fenugreek 2000mg EPO 2500mg Flax Oil 500mg WY 960mg Fennel I'm out of spirulina and multi-V,I'll go buy more whenever I find the money.I drink fennel tea 2-3times a week,don't have time to prepair it.I'm gonna add heat after my massage for the next 3months and see if that makes a difference. Growing pains all the time but no growth.  Gonna take 4days off herbs,starting on the first day of my period and I'll be taking milk thistle during these days.Hope that this month I'll have better results. |
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Post by shakira8 on Dec 2, 2005 8:24:29 GMT -5
December!!! I'm sticking to my routine again.The 4-day break didn't help,nor did the heat applying.  I gained some fullness at the outer sides of my breasts-especially at my left one) but that's all.My pains are not as strong and frequent as they used to be,don't know why.I haven't changed anything so it doesn't make sense.  Anyways,I'm not giving up,I'm gonna keep doing this for at least 6months and if nothing happens then maybe I will change smth-propably drop the WY. |
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Post by Wenonae on Dec 4, 2005 14:00:10 GMT -5
Shakira- this is where trial and error gets tricky. It never makes sense why when something was doing a 'little bit' before..then all of a sudden it just stops working. It's sounding like you've stalled. Maybe do a minor liver cleanse, then re-ramp up 1 herb per week would be of some help.
Good luck
Wen'
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Post by shakira8 on Dec 5, 2005 6:02:10 GMT -5
Hi Wen!
Honeebee told me to take a few weeks off,which sounds good to me.Do you think I should take 1week off-do the liver cleanse during this week-and then start taking the herbs again(one herb per week,as you said)?Do you think I should take more time off?Coz I'm afraid to take more than 1week off herbs,I'm afraid it's gonna take me a few steps back.You know better than me,I'll do what you say!
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Post by Wenonae on Dec 5, 2005 12:51:09 GMT -5
Hi Wen! Honeebee told me to take a few weeks off,which sounds good to me.Do you think I should take 1week off-do the liver cleanse during this week-and then start taking the herbs again(one herb per week,as you said)?Do you think I should take more time off?Coz I'm afraid to take more than 1week off herbs,I'm afraid it's gonna take me a few steps back.You know better than me,I'll do what you say! I agreed and suggested the same as Honee. Take a cycle/ more time off. Do a cleanse to possibly 'jump-start' your reactions again. Wen' |
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