Joyce's Routine

[joyce]

I have been doing this for about 2 weeks now, no results or tingling, but I'm gonna stick this one out. Even though I don't fully believe in dowsing, I did dowse, and it said what I am doing will help me, I'll see some results in 2 months, and I need to add Wild Yam. This is my routine...

fenugreek: 2 caps, 3 times a day. total: 3000mg
saw palmetto extract: 1 cap, 2 times a day. total: 320mg
saw palmetto berries: 1 cap, 2 times a day. total: 900mg
flaxseed oil: 2 tsps 1 time a day, before sleep

I need to go now, any comments are appreciated. I will post more about myself later.

[joyce]

I am back. I was thinking of buying Wild Yam today, not sure if I will add it just yet, though. I have to see what brand to get, and maybe I will try liquid herbs. Need to do more research.

Some info on myself:

age: 18
body type: nurturer (I am slightly bottom heavy)
weight: 135 lb (approx. 61 kilo)
height: 5'9"

I body build and exercise regularly. This means I follow a strict diet, low in bad fats, high in EFAs, only "good" carbs, and take in a very high amount of protein.

I used to be overweight, and had 36D boobs. Now I have small 34 B boobs. I would not mind going up to a large B high C. Going back up to a D would be awesome.

I take several supplements a day. Mostly I supplement with whey protein, a hair skin and nails multivitamin, centrum, and an A C and E antioxidant vitamin. I occasionally take soya lecithin.

I use a booby batter that consists of a few opened up fenugreek capsules and some body firming lotion with a couple of drops of pure vitamin E oil. I put it on twice daily, usually, unless I take a shower midday, then I will put it on thrice a day.

This is my first time trying out BE, and hope its the last. Help, support, comments, advice, or anything is appreciated. Thank you.

[Wenonae]

Sooo's...did any little puffs of smoke come up when you dowsed?? Mwaah-ha, ha..not! Just kidding. I'm kinda shocked you tried it! Aren't you even further shocked that the pendulum moved?

Anyways, your current regimen yes I confirm will get you will gain 0.5 cup in 2 months time.
Ideal regimen: 4 items (SP, Flax seed oil, red clover, vitamin C) & massage. No hypnosis CD's needed . You'll add fenugreek later. Your regimen could go for a little 7 months growing you up to a 35smallDD cup. That translates to a 36fullD. Wowsas. Anyways, you're a lucky duck- you don't need any special magic herbs. If you check daily, you could be done with this thing in a 5 months (if you stop at your 36C's).

Wen'

[joyce]

Wow, did you dowse for me? I'm a little confused. I've been reading as much as I can on these boards between doing things for school, working out, etc. I looked at the lingo translations, and I understood the abbreviations, but I didn't know what the actual terms were! lol.

Hmmm, I'm already taking fenugreek. How do you suggest I go about my herbs each day? What are magic herbs? Also, what do you mean by check daily, do I check with my P daily to tell which herbs I need when?

I really didn't think dowsing would work, but then again, I do believe in the power of the human mind and the subconscious. So I did it and here I am.

I'm not exactly sure on what you said. I'm a little dense when it comes to this. (and many other things, heehee) I am taking around 500% of vitamin C a day. And I take 2 tespoons of flax oil less than an hour before I sleep. Do you have any suggestions on what to put into my massage lotion?

My P said to add Wild Yam. You said Red Clover. Hmmm, maybe either will be fine? Maybe I just need to add something else. Would you suggest liquid extract or capsule of herbs?

Thanks for all the help!! I'm excited!!

[Wenonae]

LOL. Yes, I quickly checked for you. It was fast because you don't have a lot of items.

Here's your ideal check list (see if you match)-

To swallow: red clover, saw palmetto, flax seed oil, vitamin C. You should be adding fenugreek later down the liine.

To use for massage: extracts of red clover, fenugreek. If you don't have RC extract, wild yam extract is fine.

Wen'

[joyce]

Thats awesome, thank you!

I am already taking SP, flax oil, vitamin C, and fenugreek. How should I go about the fenugreek? Stop taking it or continue and just add red clover?

I open up a fenugreek capsule into lotion, is that okay? Can I do the same with the wild yam? Or should I just get the liquid extract?

I am either going to get red clover capsules, wild yam capsules, red clover extract, or wild yam extract. Which do you think I should get? I would only rather get one. Can I just take the extract like normal herbs?

Thanks for all your help!

[Islandgirl]

Liquid extracts are much better to add to lotion. However, you can crack open a capsule but you will find it gritty almost like an exfoliant. It still works though.

If you are wondering what to use ie: capsules/extracts simply ask your P. The more you practise the better. If you do take extracts ask your P how many DROPS not dropperfuls.

All the best,
Lisa

[joyce]

My P didn't say whether wild yam is better than red clover or vise versa. Then I asked if everything is going to turn out fine and it said yes.

Okay, so I think I am going to either get wild yam or red clover extract. Which do you guys think is better since my P is not answering?

[Wenonae]

It probably about how you are wording the question. Ask,'What extracts are the best to use in my boobie batter for massage right now?' How much of each item should I mix is this batch.

Be sure to rate your stuffs. GNC RC may be worse for you than Nature's Way. You want something that is at least 7/10. Also to back Lisa, breaking open capsules isn't too effect for a massage mix. Usually a liquid used with a transdermal agent (like aloe, DMSO, emu oil) helps it absorb not only into the skin, but into the blood stream a little bit.

Wen'

[joyce]

I took some of those quiz thingies to see what I need, and in one of them it asked if I get a list of symptoms. The only symptom I have is PMS. It said I was lacking something or had too much of something, or something...um...hopefully you can unserstand that.

I was reading up on red clover and wild yam, and wouldn't one cancel out the other? Which one do you think I should buy if I have PMS?

What should I do about currently taking fenugreek?

Okay, I am going to get liquid fenugreek and liquid red clover or liquid wild yam.

[Wenonae]

Verify the current items for use. If we match, drop the fenugreek. If not, keep taking the it. I would get all three extracts if you can. If you're ordering online, it'll be cheaper to add one more bottle, than order it later.

Wen'

[joyce]

I am confused on why I should get both red clover and wild yam. I thought red clover blocks progesterones why wild yam is a phytoprogesterone? Can you help me understand this?

My P says fenugreek with help me, but adding something to it will make it better.

[Wenonae]

Red clover is an herb that can fit the receptors for estrogen AND progesterone. It has other uses including general health of the breast fats in potentially cancerous situations.

Wild yam has other uses including the following "a phyto-estrogenic and/or phyto-progesteronic plant native to North and Central America, whose roots are alkaloid in chemical structure. Its uses successfully include calming conditions like diverticulitis, irritable bowel syndrome and endometriosis, bilious colic, and the nausea of pregnant women. Chemically is made of steroidal saponins (diosgenin), which can simulate production of progesterone. "

Progesterone is a mother hormone of estrogen and testosterone. Herbs have many uses. Do some more Googling to see other definitions, but basically there's something in your health status that warrents use of the extracts of the above.

Hope that helps.

Wen'

[joyce]

Alright, I think I understand. Thank you.

My P still won't say anything about wild yam or red clover. I'm not sure which to get now. Suggestions?

[Wenonae]

wenonae said:

Verify the current items for use. If we match, drop the fenugreek. If not, keep taking the it. I would get all three extracts if you can. If you're ordering online, it'll be cheaper to add one more bottle, than order it later.

Wen'

Rate each bottle you could buy, especially if there are choices for each. The ones with the highest ratings 7/10 or better, are the ones to get immediately.