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Post by Wenonae on Feb 19, 2004 3:14:43 GMT -5
Another good question to present is like what form to take NBE in? Like is an extract form ok, etc. Additionally, it seems to be able to determine when it best to take a particular substance, like follicular vs. luteal, or every day
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Post by fawnmarie on Mar 25, 2004 9:12:56 GMT -5
Charky
Sounds a bit like NAET - where you hold the substance in one hand and the practitioner tests your strength with the other. Very interesting.
I'll have to try it.
Sounds like the old-wives way of how they use to "sex" babies in the belly. : )
Hold your wedding ring on a string over the belly and clockwise was a girl, counterclockwise was a boy.
And if you HAD no wedding ring to check, you had BIGGER problems than whether to buy pink blanket or blue ones!
One last thing - Charky - bet throw in instructions on how to ground the power, or we'll have a bunch of nervous nellies all over the place!
Better yet - go ahead and post the whole thing here. I don't think anyone is going to give you any trouble for eastern-type protocols. Wen & I are the scientists on board, but even I admit openly to being a Buddhist. So, it's safe to post such things here. We've openly discussed things like hypnosis, EFT, etc., so feel safe!
Fawn
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Post by fawnmarie on Mar 29, 2004 9:30:36 GMT -5
I got some mixed results from my dowsing experiments - maybe I'm too fixed.
Fawn
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Post by Wenonae on Mar 29, 2004 13:11:05 GMT -5
I got some mixed results from my dowsing experiments - maybe I'm too fixed. Fawn Was it different days..or baseline questions produced different results, like whether BO would work best for added breast growth, vs. herbs.
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Post by fawnmarie on Mar 29, 2004 14:40:09 GMT -5
Yeah - the same question got different answers at different times.
Baseline questions were "no answer" where dosages gave definite answers.
I'll give it another shot.
Fawn
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Post by fawnmarie on Mar 31, 2004 11:04:39 GMT -5
Okay - TODAY I got 2100 mgs of BO, taken 3 times a day with the largest dose in the AM. 2400 was too much, 1800 was too little.
What's the alternative if you DON'T have the substance to check with?
Fawn
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Post by Wenonae on Mar 31, 2004 13:23:02 GMT -5
What's the alternative if you DON'T have the substance to check with? Fawn Simply verbalize it outloud, or look at pictures of the substance to get more specifc on which actual product will be most effective.
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Post by charky on Apr 14, 2004 21:16:43 GMT -5
Updated routine as of 4/14/04: (Consistent routine, determined through daily dowsing:) Average of 3 times per day, orally (mixed w/ juice & water), taken with food: 8-10 drops Fenugreek 10-12 drops Saw Palmetto 10-14 drops Licorice Rt 4-5 drops Dong Quai (except during second week of Follicular, then no DQ at all) Only during Luteal: 10-20 mg Pregnenolone total per day, taken without food Evenings: HOPS extract applied externally, sometimes (esp. during Luteal) followed with Quantum Touch - www.quantumtouch.com , or similar energy healing method, w/ hands directly on breasts. This is much more effective than applying heat from an electric source. I also sometimes fall asleep to my own guided imagery visualizations - this and the energy work are very powerful (for me, just as important, if not more, than the herbs...). **** For those of you who do/are interested in guided imagery meditations, it's more effective if you invent your own imagery (so it's personal for you) - where you allow yourself to go deep into your subconscious and put yourself in a place for growth (boob growth, that is)... and leave yourself there as you fall asleep... Example: (Before you start this, make sure you ground yourself with deep breathing. Inhale from the count of 8 to 1, then exhale counting from 8 to 1, repeating several times until you're completely relaxed and focused only on your breathing.) Then imagine: You're relaxing in your bedroom. You see a door on the wall (where one doesn't exist in current "reality"). You exit out that door and find yourself in a beautiful forest (or beach, jungle, etc.). You see a creek (ravine, other waterway, etc.), and to get across the creek, you cross a bridge. On the other side of the bridge is a path which leads you to a house. You enter through the front door of the house and walk down a long hallway. At the end of the hallway is a room filled with mirrors. Look at yourself. How do you see yourself? Whatever you see, it is beautiful. On the other side of the room is another door. Open and walk through the door. It leads you into a long winding hallway. As you walk down the hall, you pass several different colored doors to your left and right. You continue down the hallway. When you see a colored door that you like, open and enter through it. You enter into a room (or garden, or cave, etc.). Inside you find an extremely comfortable-looking lounge chair (or bed, etc.) You sit/lie in it, and above your chest area, suspended, you see two warm lights that illuminate your breasts. These are growth lamps. You can turn up the light/heat level just by willing it.... Etc. Etc. You can fall asleep to this. Keep in mind that the more you go "through" or "across" bridges, hallways, spatial areas... the more you traverse the space in your imagination, the deeper you go into your subconscious. And in order to effect change on a physical level, you MUST go deep into your subconscious, while maintaining just enough conscious "beta" brainwaves to stay consciously aware and in control of the visualization. And then once you get to where you want to be, you can fall asleep and let your unconscious take over the rest of it.
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Post by charky on Apr 14, 2004 21:54:35 GMT -5
I got some mixed results from my dowsing experiments - maybe I'm too fixed. Fawn
Fawn -
Make sure you're grounded and running energy up from the earth through your feet chakras, NOT from the cosmos into your head/7th - it should be going IN through your feet, OUT through the top of yr head, as if you are a pure channel for the earth. Transcendental work this is not. Dowsing is successful only to the degree you are connected to the earth, and the earth's energy is allowed to flow through your body. Also, you must stay as NEUTRAL AS POSSIBLE, consciously expecting no result one way or the other. It is very easy to (in fact, hard not to) influence the outcome. If you really WANT a certain result, don't worry - you can get it. It just might not be an accurate one.
It's the same as in meditation, energy work, etc. You want to be a clear channel, allowing emotions, judgements, etc. to flow through you. Don't hold onto anything. Are you a fixed sign/have a lot of fixed stuff?
All your responses should be consistent every time you ask the same question. If this is not happening, you may have energy blocks, or the device you are using may not be able to tune to your energy (or may be "bad," or out of resonance with, yr energy).
This is a tricky thing, because: Sometimes people get consistently "wrong" results. So... when you get to a point where you ARE getting consistent results, ask it simple questions you already know the answers to (while staying "neutral" and running grounding energy). I use my pendulum to know which train my husband is arriving on when he comes in at random times from downtown. It tells me which train he's on (NOT FUTURE PREDICTIONS), and which train car he's sitting in. I go to pick him up, and park right in front of the platform where I know exactly, via the pendulum, he will exit the train. He exits the train exactly where I expected to find him. But I have to stay neutral when I ask these questions. If I was asking where he was because I was suspicious he was with another woman, then I wouldn't really be neutral, and couldn't expect an accurate response. Does that make sense?
You might want to try using another device as a pendulum. Make sure it's something you really like and can connect with. It should be completely symmetrical, and not too heavy. Then do not ask it a question until you do the following:
Dangle pendulum over your open left palm (or right, if y're left handed, just as long as y're consistent). Hold it so that you only have about an inch or two of string between the p. and your fingertips that are holding the p. Slowly release more string, little by little, until the p. starts rotating clockwise over yr palm. Let it rotate until it's going pretty strong. By then it should be "tuned" to your energy. Then ask away. Do this every time you pick up yr p. to ask questions.
"The Divining Mind" is a good basic book about dowsing (better than most out there that I've seen, but then I haven't looked at too many of them, and I tend to be discriminating with this kind of stuff). Co-written by one of the founders of the Amer. Society of Dowsers.
You asked about kinesiology (muscle-testing). Yes, you can get the same kinds of results as with kines. With a pendulum, though, you don't need the other person, and can get the same results on yr own. A book I'd recommended to Wenonae is David Hawkins' series, especially "Power vs. Force". For the scientist in you, he did co-author a book w/ Nobelist Linus Pauling...
Hope this helps.
xoxo Charky
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Post by Glasskulan on Jun 22, 2004 6:52:57 GMT -5
Hi Charky! I have been thinking about starting a BO-programme, then I read about your problems, sorry to hear about it Of course we're all different. I don't know... Then I read that you were feeling better after starting a new BE-programme, that suited you better! Anyway I'm a little curious about your bodytype, do you think that your body type determined how things worked out for you? Hope you still feel fine! Anna
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Post by Wenonae on Jun 22, 2004 16:26:46 GMT -5
Hi Charky! I have been thinking about starting a BO-programme, then I read about your problems, sorry to hear about it Of course we're all different. I don't know... Then I read that you were feeling better after starting a new BE-programme, that suited you better! Anyway I'm a little curious about your bodytype, do you think that your body type determined how things worked out for you? Hope you still feel fine! Anna Stay tuned. We'll be doing a survey at the summer's end to see how body type, blood type, and hormonal type play a role in NBE.
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Post by articulate on Jul 13, 2004 18:43:26 GMT -5
after reading this thread i am VERY interested in the pendulum technique, i believe this will help me get on the right track to BE!
i dont want to go out and buy a pendulum quite yet, and i dont have any rings. LOL. what else can i use to test it, would a gold hoop ear ring do?
also i dont understand how it shows you the answer.. like where it gets or how it even knows the answer to the questions asked. does it come from your own personal knowledge or does it just know (even if you dont)? eg: i dont know what BO is and how it works, i just know its a hormonal BE method, and i only know that BE herbs are well, herbs (like i dont know how the herbs affect my body, i just know im suppost to take them to enhance my bust size). when i ask the pendulum if BO or herbs are right for me, does the pendulum just know even if i have no knowledge of the subjects? stuff like that
thx~
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Post by barbara392639 on Jul 13, 2004 18:54:23 GMT -5
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Post by Wenonae on Jul 13, 2004 18:56:08 GMT -5
after reading this thread i am VERY interested in the pendulum technique, i believe this will help me get on the right track to BE! i dont want to go out and buy a pendulum quite yet, and i dont have any rings. LOL. what else can i use to test it, would a gold hoop ear ring do? also i dont understand how it shows you the answer.. like where it gets or how it even knows the answer to the questions asked. does it come from your own personal knowledge or does it just know (even if you dont)? eg: i dont know what BO is and how it works, i just know its a hormonal BE method, and i only know that BE herbs are well, herbs (like i dont know how the herbs affect my body, i just know im suppost to take them to enhance my bust size). when i ask the pendulum if BO or herbs are right for me, does the pendulum just know even if i have no knowledge of the subjects? stuff like that thx~ Hiya..Cruise this folder A lot more details are there concerning Charky's info. BTW, BO is crushed Bovine Ovary. As far as a pendulum..try an earring attached to a piece of thread or string.
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