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Post by charky on Feb 12, 2004 22:44:11 GMT -5
Just got back onboard (BE Board, that is!), after quitting BO about 3 months ago 11/03) due to it screwing up my hormone levels and causing a bad case of endometriosis. I did, however, get from a medium 36A to a medium 36B in about 4 months. For the endometriosis, I'm currently undergoing powerful therapy (and gladly avoiding surgery) using magnetic resonance.
Decided to get back on the BE track after figuring out a new, more healthy system using a pendulum (for dowsing) and a few herbal extracts (all organic, Eclectic Institute). Been on this new track for about 6 weeks and just made it to a small 36C.
Following is my daily routine.
I internally take (by mixing w/ juice for flavor):
6-10 drops (NOT dropperfuls, only DROPS) of Fenugreek 6-12 drops of Saw Palmetto 5-8 drops of Dong Quai
I take half in the morning, half in the evening. The exact amount I take varies from day to day, and is determined by asking my pendulum (pendulum techniques can vary - w/ my technique, I place my left palm flat on the table w/ the bottle of herbal extract a few inches in front of my middle finger. Using my right hand, I suspend the pendulum between my mid finger and the bottle, and ask Yes or No questions - "3 or more drops?" etc., and the pendulum will move North-South for Yes, East-West for No).
Externally in the evenings I mix 5-8 drops of Hops with a little Flax oil (it's the hops, not the flax oil, that promotes BE, but the flax is a healthy mixing agent) and use that for massage. If I have time, I apply heat (heating pad on Low setting) for 15-30 minutes, the exact time again determined by asking the pendulum.
FYI, the herbs are also helping to balance my hormones and work in conjunction w/ the magnetic resonance treatment to cure my endometriosis. That on top of the BE!
Also, the pendulum indicated that Red Clover did absolutely nothing (whether taken internally or externally) for BE, although it was still good for general health. Saw Palmetto, Fenugreek and DongQuai should not be used Externally for BE, and Hops will do nothing for BE if taken internally. BO is an absolute NO-NO.
NOTE: ALL OF THE ABOVE IS APPROPRIATE FOR MY BODY ONLY, AND ITS CURRENT CONDITION. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND YOUR OWN SYSTEM IF YOU ARE OPEN/INTERESTED IN EXPLORING DOWSING WORK W/ PENDULUMS.
Please don't hesitate to respond (I only get onto this board about once a week) if you're interested and would like more info.
- Charky
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Post by princess26 on Feb 12, 2004 23:53:42 GMT -5
Hey Charky, I was reading your post and found it really interesting. I have never heard of anything like this before. So u have grown already from this? That's amazing! How did u find out abou this? I am pretty new to BE, and am currently taking the herbs...but commercials not individuals. So how much of what??? Who knows... I have seen some decent results so far and am only on week 9 I think. My main concern with all of this is, if I do grow...will I shrink after I stop taking them.....and to spend so much time and money...it does get frustrating. Sorry to hear about the endo trouble. Keep us posted on your progress. I am interested to see how things turn out for u with this. Kelly
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Post by Wenonae on Feb 13, 2004 13:45:47 GMT -5
Charky-
That is a most interesting post. Now say, we really want to know where you've gotten your info from for this new 'pendulum' technique for figuring what works for your system....seems like u got the 'Cliff Notes' for your body.
We could all use some of that.
Do be careful of Dong Quai in summer...Momi' got serious tan (good), but also tan lines (not so hot) which were hard to fade.
Looking foward to your response....
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Post by Wenonae on Feb 13, 2004 19:48:52 GMT -5
..some links I've found in the meanwhile... [ftp]http://skepdic.com/dowsing.html[/ftp] [ftp]http://www.lettertorobin.org/RBN_html/RBN_10_4_English.html[/ftp] Simpler, yet informative link [ftp]http://www.crystalinks.com/dowsing.html[/ftp]
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Post by princess26 on Feb 13, 2004 20:18:20 GMT -5
Interesting links Wen...I was looking over them, and think this sounds really interesting, but maybe a little too complicated for me. I have never heard of anything like this before. Kelly
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Post by charky on Feb 14, 2004 12:56:20 GMT -5
Hi Princess & Wen -
Yes, for people new to this, it may seem really "out there." I noticed, Wen, you forwarded a link from the "Skepdics" site, folks who try to "de-bunk" anything that is outside of the Western materialist mind-set - basically, anything they don't understand.
I also practice energy healing and Chinese martial arts, and have been witness to amazing "miracles" - a miracle being something that is completely natural - it's just beyond the understanding of the traditional Western materialist mindset that folks on this side of the world aren't used to, or are afraid of.
I got into dowsing for energy healing purposes, but quickly discovered it would work for BE and other body/health issues. What I've found is that people take WAY too much herbs, and often the wrong ones (or in the wrong combinations), and doing that can throw your body off-whack, or may not produce the desired results (or may produce those results, but w/ unfortunate side effects).
And yes, you're correct, be careful with Dong Quai - it's VERY powerful. In fact, I'd originally started just with Fenugreek and SP, taking (per the pendulum) over 40 drops/day of each. the pendulum then suggested I add Dong Quai, so I ordered some, and once I started (never more than 4 drops each time), I was able to cut down the Fen. and SP down to 5-12 drops/day!
Our bodies know a lot more than we (our minds) do. Your body knows what's bad for you, or what's good for you. All you have to do is ask. Dowsing is merely allowing your body to communicate with you, through the use of a sensitive device like a pendulum or dowsing rod. It's VERY EASY. However, it may not seem to "work" for people whose energy is blocked or out of balance.
A way to test, is by taking a ring (preferably gold or silver), not too heavy without a gem attached to it - I use my gold wedding band as my pendulum - then take a piece of sewing thread, tying it to the ring and allowing several inches of extra thread so that you can hold onto one end and let the ring dangle.
Hold it w/ your right hand (between your thumb and index finger) and let the ring dangle a couple of inches over the open palm of your left hand. Once the ring is still, ask it "Show me YES." And see what movement it makes. Then "Show me NO." Then "Show me which direction my chakra is spinning." And if it's working for you, and if your palm chakra is open, it will start spinning like a tetherball (the more energy you have running, the more crazy it'll spin).
If it's not working for you, you may need a better device to use as a pendulum, or you may have a blockage that needs to be cleared. One important thing to keep in mind is that MOTIVATION has everything to do with how it works for you. You should never ask personal questions about other people, or questions where you might be emotionally attached to the answers, or intend to use the answer to undermine another person/situation. It will either refuse to answer the question, or may give you inaccurate info.
Do google searches for pendulums/dowsing to find more info on different techniques.
If you have a hard time getting started - and your interested in getting started is sincere and open - let me know and I'll help out further. This isn't for everyone, but I'm willing to help anyone who's motivations (outside of BE) are in the right place.
Charky
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Post by charky on Feb 14, 2004 13:03:57 GMT -5
Also, Gals -
If you're interested in knowing more, please e-mail me directly at charlene0917@yahoo.com. I rarely get to this board, but will be checking that e-mail address for messages periodically.
Good luck and happy growing to all of us!
charky
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Post by princess26 on Feb 15, 2004 2:17:29 GMT -5
Charky, I sent u an email btw...but I was online looking for links on dowsing. Lots of information on this. I find this very interesting...how something like this could be around for so long and not known by many people. I have known alot of people that read cards and a few that can actually do spiritual readings on others. But I have never heard anything on this subject. Any information u have, I would like to discuss with u! Thanks, Kelly
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Post by anita22179 on Feb 15, 2004 12:09:32 GMT -5
hi charky, this is very new and exciting to me, but i really couldnt follow how to do it. once the ring stops moving, how can we get it to move again to indicate yes or no? do i lower it to touch my left palm and raise it again? i am basically on BO but my hormonal levels are very much out of balance , low oestrogen with very low progesterone. i contemplated OCP use once to balance out my hormones but declined when fawn advised me against it, as i dont need it for contraception.so by this methos is it possible to know what my body needs and what not? please let me know. thanks, anita
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Post by teatowel on Feb 15, 2004 12:29:49 GMT -5
The ring/palm thing works...way cool. tea
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Post by Wenonae on Feb 15, 2004 19:08:19 GMT -5
Hi Charky- Well, you can tell I'm a novice, didn't mean to post a negative site..just something to give people to chew on. In any case, the mere fact that most of us are here trying this, indicates that maybe our minds are more open...I really can't stand some of Western medicine's mindset..pharmecueticals ..more side effects than fixing the actually symptom Good intro for figuring out if if this method is a possibility. How did u get the 'suggestion' for dong quai? Would it perhaps be more prudent to get all herbs that one has within reach, and simply ask 'yes' or 'no', or does one need to wait for an indicator? If so, then what is that? Tx!
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Post by Wenonae on Feb 15, 2004 19:15:37 GMT -5
The ring/palm thing works...way cool. tea That's really cool, Tea. You're obviously 'open'. So now, the trick is to get the rest of the 'durn' answers...like, "what'll make me grow"
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Post by princess26 on Feb 16, 2004 0:04:37 GMT -5
Wen and Tea, Have you both tried this already? I really find this interesting and wanted to try this in the next few days. I am interested to know how to start this. I guess I had the same question as you did Wen, about how the ring starts moving again...do u have to start over again after every question or should it just take off from there? Confused here! Let me know what your experience is with this. I can't wait to find out. Kelly
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Post by teatowel on Feb 16, 2004 12:08:35 GMT -5
I just keep asking the questions, pause and give it a few seconds and it changes its direction. For example, I asked it if I liked brussel sprouts...NO. I asked if brussel sprouts were good for me...YES. Then I moved to chocolate...YES. Then I asked if BO would work for me...YES. Herbs? Undecided...kinda fluttered. But this is stuff I already have preconceived notions about, so the pendulum isn't reflecting anything but what I already think...right? I mean, how can it tell you anything except we all have electromagnetic energy around us that changes with our mood? hmmm. Darn interesting, but I can't figure out how it relates to BE. tea
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Post by charky on Feb 18, 2004 22:13:04 GMT -5
Hey gals -
Sorry it takes awhile for me to respond. I don't get to this site often enough, and I have a few e-mails from some of you that I need to respond to.
For those of you who HAVE been able to get the ring moving (and for those of you who HAVEN'T, scroll down to the bottom):
Be VERY careful how you phrase your questions. As with all practices/devices involving energy, you should treat the whole process w/ respect and seriousness. Also, asking very "subjective" questions (like "Do I like this or that?" - questions that involve personal opinions, or that you already know the answers to) may elicit confusing responses. What the pendulum deals with is "objective" knowledge - knowledge that is true or false outside of personal opinion.
The pendulum will answer questions that your body already knows the answer to. Your body knows what's healthy and what isn't for you.
PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE QUESTION AND HOW IT'S PHRASED. If you ask "Will BO work for me?" What does that mean? Work how?
Be specific: "Will BO increase my breast size if I take 1800 mg. per day?" YES, perhaps it will. But more importantly, ASK FIRST, "Is BO healthy for my body?" or "Will BO hurt my body or reduce my level of health?"
What we're looking for are substances that won't hurt us, or leave us with endometriosis, or destroy our livers, or make us depressed, or make our hair fall out, or take 10 years off our lives... There ARE substances out there for each of us that will make us healthy AND promote BE at the same time!
SO, HERE'S HOW TO START: Take whatever the substance is, place it on a table in front of you, place your left palm face down on the table, with the 4 fingers closed and thumb open. Place the substance (herbal extract, BO, etc.) a few inches in front of your middle fingertip. With your right hand holding the string, dangle the ring/pendulum in the air between your fingertip and the testing substance. Without asking anything specific, see if it moves YES or NO. If it moves YES, then it's healthy for you. If it moves NO, put it away and DON'T USE IT.
For those herbs/substances that showed a YES response, ask "Will this promote BE if used daily?"
For those that still showed YES, ask "Will this promote BE if taken internally?" For those that show NO, ask "Will this promote BE if applied externally?"
Once you've figure out if it's better to use it internally or externally, then use the same questioning method to find out how much to take. "For BE, should I take more than (10 drops/500mgs, etc.) daily?" And then reduce or increase the amount depending on the answer you get.
Ask the pendulum on a daily basis. Some days you may need more, some days less. Also, periodically ask questions like "Should I take a break from any of these herbs?" or "Is there another substance that I could use to improve my routine for BE and health?"
THEN, ALWAYS SAY "THANK YOU" AFTER EVERY QUESTIONS. IT MAY SOUND CORNY TO YOU, BUT IT COMMUNICATES RESPECT FOR THE ENERGY AND RESPECT FOR YOUR BODY. UNTIL WE HAVE RESPECT FOR OUR BODIES, WE WILL NEVER HAVE THE BODIES WE WANT.
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Now, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE RING MOVING:
Is the ring of a pure metal, like silver or gold? (I don't know if steel will work, and if it does, if it'll be healthy for your energy). If you're using a real pendulum, what's the material? Try to keep it simple - don't get anything that looks too fancy - it'll probably have too many conflicting substances that could confuse the communication process.
Do you do any kind of exercise or meditation? Meditation, especially, is very important to clear your energy. If you don't like to meditate, then martial arts, yoga, swimming, biking or any other exercise that promotes fluidity (nothing too jarring) will also help get your energy cleared up.
Next time you want to try your ring/pendulum do this:
Make sure you're sitting comfortably in a chair with your feet FLAT ON THE GROUND. The environment should be comfortable for you. No loud or jarring noises - maybe you could even have some mellow music on, or just quiet. Another good environment, if you have access to it, would be to put yourself in nature somewhere - maybe near a grove of trees, or a garden. Make sure no one else is around.
Before you pick up the ring/pendulum, relax and close your eyes. Inhale several seconds, breathing all the way to your abdomen, below your belly button. Hold the breath a few seconds. Exhale slowly, taking several seconds to release all the air. Continue this several times until you feel grounded and relaxed. As you inhale, breathe in peace and love for yourself and the world. As you exhale, breathe out any stress, any insecurities or any anxieties you may have. Breathe out the energy/activities of the previous day, week, month...
With your eyes closed, imagine energy coming up from the earth up into your feet, then up through your legs. Imagine the inner channels in your legs opening up, so a lot of earth energy can go up into them. Let the earth energy move up til it fills you all up. Really let it run through all the channels in your body. After you're all filled up, imagine the top of your head opening up, and let energy from the sky/cosmos (cosmic energy) come into you through the top of your head. Let it mix with the earth energy to clear all your channels in your body. Imagine the mixed energy clearing out any and all blocks in your whole body. Then release the dirt/debris out of your feet (or your lower back/butt area, or elbows, whichever place is easier to release for you). Continue this until you feel completely clear.
Open your eyes, and pick up your pendulum. With your right hand, hold the string and dangle it above your open left palm and ask, "Please show me how my chakra is spinning." Be patient. Hopefully the ring/pendulum will beging to rotate/spin in a clockwise direction. If this works, continue by asking, "Show me YES." Then "Show me NO."
DO NOT TRY TO USE THE PENDULUM IF YOU ARE STRESSED, DEPRESSED, ETC. It may give you confused answers.
If you sincerely try the above exercise, and it still doesn't produce the desired effects, please e-mail me for more suggestions at charlene0917@yahoo.com. Please be patient, I will get back to you, but it may take a few days.
Good luck and happy growing! Charky
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