New and in pain

[susana]

Hi everyone!

I'm a 22 yo, with a very girly figure (slim waist, round hips&bum), toned members but with a fairly small breasts for my body (especially shoulders and hips).

As trying doesn't hurt (well, it's kinda hurting), i started taking fenugreek a few days ago (about 1800 mg a day - 3 times 600 along the day)- and also centella asiatica for improving my circulation, that certainly works well for me. I've also been doing massage twice a day, but the question is: being so far away from my next period and only taking it for a few days, should I already be in pain with sore breasts and itchy nipples? I know "no pain, no gain", but did I started with too much or something? I'm used to have this pains a few days before my period, so, i'm kinda worried that i'm messing something up.

About my stats

Age 22
Weight 55 kg
hight 165 cm
Children - 0
bra size - 32B (with some room to spare, but 32A is painful at sides)
under bust - 67 cm (maybe I should wear 30s, I just can't find them were I live)
bust -86 cm
body type - I don't really know, probably pear shaped, but as I work out quite a bit don't really look that way, more like a small hourglass
hormone balance - estrogen dominant
PCOS - no
Blood type A+
Birth control - None

As I said, I'm only taking fenugreek for BE, I don't want to take any kind of anti-androgens since I'm fairly toned and don't wanna loose that. I'm in great physical health, and I feel really good with my body, but I would like to at least fill up my bras better at tops and middle. If I don't, well, at least I'll know I tried. Gaining weight wouldn't really work because it goes everywhere except the boobs.

So, should I continue what I'm doing or am I doing something wrong?

thanks

[Wahaika]

Susana,

You are doing fine. The pain is normal and is a good sign that you are a good responder to fenugreek. The pains may subside as you get used to it.

Wahaika

[Erin C.]

Susana,

Are you using oils or lotions to massage? Just be sure the itchiness isn't simply a side effect or irritation of whatever you're using (or not using) in your massage.

From what I know, the internal pains are definitely a good sign!

Good luck!

[susana]

thank you for the answers, I only toke fenugreek for 5 weeks because the pain in my legs was just too much, my circulation is bad from genetics so, I didn't want to risk it.

I kept the massage, but i only use a body lotion/moisturizer.

About size, the kiddos are a bit bigger, maybe not in bust measurement but they are a bit fuller. so my 32B bras are okish on top but the sides are killing me . I did try a few 32C bras (not a very easy size to find compared to a 32B) and the bottom and sides were perfect...BUT, the freakin tops/center are a little gapped, just like they were before.

So i have the following questions:
1. is there anything i can do to gain breast on tops/center faster that on bottoms and sides? or will i always have "diferent cups" between them?
2. I have some symptoms of high estrogen, should I try an herb to increase the progesterone , or to lower the estrogen?

thank you so much

[Wahaika]

1. Nope. That's just the way it is. They fill out on the bottoms first, then the sides, then the top last. You could try massaging only the tops and see if it makes any difference.

2. It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. If you are trying to do BE, then no. If you want to be balanced then there are things you could do but they would conflict with the BE program. For estrogen dominance, the best thing in my opinion is progesterone cream (USP Progesterone) used once per day on about days 12 or 14 through 24.

Here's a good one:

"Products of Nature, 54 Danbury Road, Ridgefield, CT 06877, [phone].
www.pronature.com - Connecticut
www.prodnature.com - Texas
Maker of Natural Woman progesterone cream."
( www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_progesterone.html )

"Q: What amount of progesterone do you recommend in a cream?

A: Dr. Lee recommends the creams that contain 450-500 mg of progesterone per ounce, which is 1.6% by weight or 3% by volume. This means that about ¼ teaspoon daily would provide about 20 mg/day."
( www.johnleemd.com/store/faqs_progest_crm.html )

But again, only if you want to balance yourself. Not recommended for BE.

Wahaika