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[desire]

hi everyone

[weaver118]

I've been reading random messages on this forum for about a month. This is my first post.

Never tried any type of BE before. I wear a 34B bra, but only the padded ones, so I'm probably really a small B or full A. I am 46 years old, have one child, and I'm tall (5'10") and tend to be lean. Very skinny upper body, and heavier in the legs, etc. I've recently lost about 20 lbs, so what little chest I had reduced even more.

Started Pammy's routine (wow, lots of pills), and did the 3000mg dose per herb for about 1.5 weeks, then read another post that suggested it may be too much if nothing were happening, so I backed off to 2000mg per herb a day. Now have been on a total of about 3.5 weeks, and about 2 weeks ago started massaging twice a day with Pammy's b-butter recipe. Nothing noticeable yet, except my breasts feel a bit sore to the touch. I'm clueless about how to experiment, so I guess I'll stick with the current recipe for now and see if anything happens. Any suggestions? Oh yeah, also taking multi-B complex and calcium/mag supplement.

Has anyone had any experience with Don Quai or the Pueraria Mirifica pills?

Any input is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

[canadiangirl]

I'm new to this!
I'm 31 years old, 5'6", and 125 lbs.
I'm married with three kids all nursed over a year each. They are now 3,5,7 years old.

I was about a 32A when married at 21. I am very athletic and gain muscle mass very quickly.

While nursing with the third child I grew to a 34C but when I was finished, I dried up with no extra skin or stretch marks, don't ask how that happened, it's like they never existed. Now only my nipples are saggy.

I am not big enough for a bra and fill absolutely nothing. My shirts are all double lined tank tops with spaghetti strings. Not a problem when it's hot but it's hard to find nice tops for going out that fit. I do have a lot of muscle in my chest from working which looks a bit like cleavage.

I went to the health food store for some Anica for a sore back and found a breast enhancer and thought what the heck, it can't hurt.
Since then started researching on line and found this website.

This breast enhancer has folliculinum 7C, mammary glands 4x, sabal serrulata 2x, and connective tissue 4C.

I take 4 pellets 3x a day and noticed my breasts were tingling after 24 hours.
I started some saw palmetto160mg 2x day lower dose because I am so small.

I would like to start Pammy's routine but in smaller doses.

My period started yesterday, so after reading this seams like a great time to start.

Do you have some advice before I start?

[luv2live]

Hi,
I am 34 years old married to a great guy. I have three children whom I breast feed for well over two years each. I know way to long. However, while breast feeding I was a small "B" an did not want to go back to an AAA cup. After I finished breast feeding my last child I quickly went back to my AAA cup. I have not eaten meat or chicken since I was eight years old. I am 5'3 and 125 pounds. I am not taking any medications. I do take multi-vitamins and PABA for my skin and hair. I tried Robust a few years back when I was not breast feeding and had absolutely no growth. I also found out this year that I have (at least this is what my Doctors believes- I am skeptical) that I have polycystic cyst on my ovaries and only three on my liver. The reason I do not truly believe that these are polycystic is becasue woman with plastic ovaries usually can not get pregnant. The cysts on my liver are small and there are only three of them. My dad has PKD and I believe this is the reason the Docs are saying this about me. The problem is that I have read that estrogen makes cyst grow. Is it possible for the breast to grow without using herbs that have estrogen like effects on the body? Maybe I should just forget about trying to increase my breast size, but I'm really tired of being flat chested. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Sarah

[flatmama]

Luv2live,
If you are worried about the extra estogren then on Eve's forum I know of a couple of people that grew with only a certain type of massage and 'boobie foods', no herbs. I'm trying the massage right now...as well as Serene and I think some others. Here's some links to their routines, and check Serene's routine page, you'll find some links to the massage technique explained there also.

www.network54.com/Forum/482052/thread/1150526187/fengshui%27s+D+cup+journey

www.network54.com/Forum/482052/thread/1145644666/Tiger+Lily%27s+booby+growth+project

Good Luck

[luv2live]

Thank-you so very much. I will check these links out asap!

Sarah

[scooch2k]

I want to post my routine and get feedback but I can't figure out how!! HELP!!

Thanks

[Mary]

Hello! I have just turned 45 years old and started BE herbs from Greenbush about 2 1/2 months ago. I have two sons in their teens who I nursed two years each. I feel like my breasts have been getting smaller and smaller each year. I was a D cup in my teens and early 20's and a C cup up until the last 10 years. When I started the herbal routine, I jumped in and took the max of the extract blend, tea and capsules and massage twice a day with the extract. I was bloated and gassy for about 2 weeks. I gained 10 pounds (I needed it) and grew 1/2". At 8 weeks, I gained another 1/2"! yeah! But at 10 weeks, went back down by 1/2"-bummer! I am fuller which I am grateful for but getting a bit discouraged. More personal info-I have Graves's disease and lupus (both in remission through natural therapies, diet and exercise and acupuncture). I was also getting acupuncture treatments the first 6 weeks of my BE herbs but stopped due to finances. That is also when I lost the 1/2". Maybe a correlation?! Anyway, I have added an herbal infusion of damiana, oat straw, nettles, red clover and I am eating dong quai and ginseng-just started this three days ago-I already feel an increase in libido! I am also taking chasteberry and ginko. I take evening primrose, borage and cod liver alternating throughout the week. I eat very well-bone broths, veggies, meat, homemade yogurt, etc-definitely into living foods and herbs. Boy-now that I look at this, it seems like a lot! I have to say, my energy has improved since taking the Greenbush herbs and so have my moods. I am going to search the site! This is my first time on doing anything like this-posting on a board and herbs for breast enhancement. I have always felt ashamed, vain and selfish for wanting my breasts bigger. But when I started the Greenbush herbs-I felt so clear that it's okay for me to do this. Now, I'm feeling a bit discouraged and vain again!

[Wahaika]

Hi Mary,

Red clover and chasteberry are not good for NBE. You might want to discontinue those.

Otherwise, go for it! If you have any questions, just ask.

Wahaika

[Mary]

Hello Waihika,

Thanks for responding. I have stopped the Chasteberry and the Red Clover and the infusions-it felt like too much. I'm back to just doing the Greenbush blend 4 caps 3 x's a day, 4 droppers 3 x's a day. Still taking 1 cap Borage and 2-4 caps of EPO a day. Massage only once a day because I've been busy in the morning. I have lost 5 pounds and have not gained any size in my breasts. I have been doing a lot of yard work and spending time outside which somehow increases my metabolism. I'm pretty discouraged - it's been 3 1/2 months. Any ideas?

[Wahaika]

Hello Mary,

Do you mean that you have been doing the Enhancement Blend and Greenbush extracts? Sounds like you might be getting too much and are probably stalled.

Can you list everything you are taking and the amounts of each in mg? Include anything else like vitamins, oils, etc.

[Mary]

Hello Wahaika,

I was just working on a reply to you when I think I accidentally deleted it-I apologize if this is a repeat. Let's see if my memory is accurate!

This is what I did for about the first 2 months or so:

Greenbush Enhancement Blend capsules which include saw palmetto, fenugreek and wild yam 575 mg in a serving size. The directions say take 3 caps 3 times a day. I'm not sure if 3 caps are a serving or 1 is considered a serving-I guess I should ask! I was taking 3 caps 3 x's a day.

I also took the Greenbush Enhancement Blend Extract which is 333 mg of each herb listed above in 1/4 teaspoon. The directions say to take 1/2 to 2 ml 3 x's a day. (1/8 t. = 1/2 ml). I just measured the exact amount in the dropper I was taking and I was taking 3/4 t. 3 x's a day.

I also was taking 1/2 t. of yellow dock 3 x's per day because it's spring and I usually do that this time of year (or dandelion).

I was also massaging 2 times a day with some of the extract blend in some olive oil. I use a heating pad at night after massage for about 30 minutes.

I am hit and miss with vitamins-I eat a very healthy diet-good fats, good protein, veggies, fruit-minimal sugar, homemade yogurt, etc. I'm gluten free and don't eat much bread products anyway. Just a gluten free bagel that has flax in it once a day-I don't eat rice or other grains - they just don't agree with me.

Results and symptoms:

I was very bloated the first two weeks or so but Greenbush thought that was unusual and probably wasn't due to their herbs. I'm sure it was-I have a tendency to overdue things (ya think!) and think I was taking too much, now that I look back. I was just too impatient and wanted results fast.

The first 3-4 days, I felt tingling, fullness and a bit of soreness! I was pretty excited!

I also gained 1/2' in the first two weeks and about 11 pounds in the first month. At first I thought no biggie, I could use the extra pounds. But it was all in my tummy and strangely in my inner thighs (I exercise pretty regularly-walking and yoga and tai chi type exerices-nothing too vigorous but good, intentional work). I definitely was feeling heavy and gaining a flabby belly which is something I don't typically have.

I gained another 1/2" at maybe 5-6 weeks and then stalled for sure. I could feel myself stop growing. I was also going to my acupuncturist for some menstrual issues (my cycle is pretty irregular at this time in my life-I'm 45 years old). I stopped going to her at about this point and then panicked because I stalled. So, I started taking more of the herbs. This is when I added Borage Oil 1000 mg 1 time at night along with Evening Primrose 2 caps 3 x's a day (500 mg each). I did read online about overdoing it and stalling but I didn't follow that advice.

Then I started taking the infusions (damiana, oat straw, nettles, pepermint, hawthorne) along with the chaste tree, dong quai, black cohosh, ginkgo-

Now, at about 3 1/2 months-I am back to 3 caps 3 x's a day and 3 droppers 3 x's a day of the Greenbush stuff. Only massaging once a day.

Wow, writing this all down really puts it in my awareness how crazy I was. I have had a lot of shame around my breasts the last 8 years or so and this is how it's coming out, I guess.

I am back to my original size but do still have some fullness.

Time for balance.

As you can see, I need some guidance. I am ready to really listen.

Thank you so much for your help. I'm feeling pretty sad.

[Mary]

Hello again,

I don't know if this matters or not, but I was also having very strong cravings for fat during weeks 6-11 or so.

I did also stop the herbs for a couple of days and started again today.

Colleen

[Mary]

Hi Again,

I also forgot to add that I found a link recommending chicken foot soup and I started drinking that today. I also started craving milk yesterday which I haven't had since I was 17-I mean just drinking a glass. I usually use rice milk. I found a farmer to get chicken feet (and heads!) and raw milk. I just started with 2 oz. of milk since it has been so long since I have had it.

I was also drinking the Bustea from Greenbush but haven't had that in days. I am going to stop the herbs (will still massage and eat good food) until I hear suggestions from you.

Stats:

45 years old
5'8"
146 (typically I am 135 which most people tell me looks too skinny on me-I'm lean)
36 AA before starting herbs
got to a full 36 A on the Greenbush herbs
I nursed 2 children and at my largest size I was a full 36D (while nursing but I was also this size at ages 16-20)
I started working out in my early 20's cardio and weights and dropped to a 36C.