Questions about routines and hysterectomy

[wiccanwoman]

Hi everyone I'm new to NBE and have been reading about it for hours tonight. I stumbled onto the topic because after my hysterectomy I noticed a slight swelling/change in my small breasts and searching for the reason why brought me here. I want to find the right plan for me with herbal and massage methods.

I see a lot of women talking about thier cycles, I no longer have them since my total Hysterectomy 7 weeks ago. I was left with one ovary since I had problems with recurrent cycts on the other. Any advice for a women my age with a hysterectomy..will this still work for me ?

my info..

Age: 28
Height: 5"6
Weight: 120
Bra Size: 36B
Children: 1
Breastfed: No
Goal: Full C to D cup

right now I have the following problems that may help deciding my plan and what herbs to take to balance my hormones

low blood presure
brief hot flashes
fatigue
acne (never had it before hysterectomy)
poor circulation

I also have MS, I only take pain pills (lortab) and antihistamines to control my symptoms at the moment do any of the herbs talked about on here conflict with the meds I take ?

I'm excited and will be dedicated to doing this, after 2 horrifying surgerys for my hysterectomy I swore to my hubby I would never have any plastic surgery..this seems like a much better choice that has worked for many women.

[Wenonae]

Wiccanwoman-

I'm really glad you've had a child before the whole hysterectomy thing- and such a young age. Seems like you are a very open person so's let's c what can be done.

For reference, there are a few women on here who've done BE in spite of hysterectomies with some success. There are also menopausal women doing BE with some success. User names which come to mind include Dollie, Gigi, and Horselady.

From that symptoms you are listing, you're best bet to get balanced/healthy (which is a good idea first) with good ole saw palmetto (SP) at 2-3g's daily to help your acne, USP progesterone cream 2 weeks of the month to help with hot flashes and fatigue, and red clover blossums which will help with taking the blood you do have and helping it to flow a bit more easily at 500-1000mg/day thereby improving your blood pressure and poor circulation.

These things should get you balanced and will also help your BE efforts. Since you have no cycle, you'll need to make sure you track which weeks you use USP progesterone cream vs. the others.

G'luck

Wen'

[wiccanwoman]

Thanks for the reply.

I will def be getting the SP and red clover. Are progesterone creams safe to use and how are they applied ? I heard bad things about them and others saying they are good.

After I get myself more balanced and healthy can a women with a hysterectomy still be successful with the tranditional NBE methods like Pammy's program ? I know everyones needs to be tweeked for thier own progress. I would really like to be able to take fenugreek but thinking maybe fennel would be better because of my low blood pressure. I'd also like to incorperate EPO into my routine, maybe in massage ?

My Husband would love me to do the Grow Yours program but I;m not too sure about that. When I was pregnent and lactating I had massive DD'd that leeked and were very sore. If I add the grow your to my routine will it be the same as lactating ? I really can't see being happy with sore leaking breasts.

[Wenonae]

Google progesterone creams- like anything they are good if you need them- and you do while you're adjusting from your hysterectomy.

Yes, I think it's possible for you to do NBE successfully. Luckily you still have an ovary, but still you'll just have to dedicate to figuring out what works for you. You may want to look in Alt Methods folder to see how to read your body with muscle-testing or dowsing, it could save you some time. Those are still skills, so no matter what you gotta spend time doing something.

Grow Yours program, it's been a over a year since you stopped breast-feeding. It doesn't seem like the women are filling with milk, rather enlarging/engorging their breast lobes. Any massage program, I think it's a good idea to supplement with something internal for the best results.
[Added comment: since this post, it was posted by the Grow Yours rep that the ladies ARE increasing size by inducing milk production]

I'd start by improving your current symptoms, then do add some kind of massage.

Wen'

[fawnmarie]

WW:

If you're a practicing Wiccan, you might do very well with the dowsing method, since it's similar to trance work.

Since you have an ovary left, and you're young, your best routine would be very much the same as any other woman your age. You're still producing estrogen and progesterone and plenty of growth hormone. The surgical hyst doesn't mean that much to BE, because the uterus doesn't really have much to do with the growth process as the ovaries. I did my full BE program with one ovary and had no problem whatsoever.

I had a customer recently show me some data on a study that showed that raising prolactin helped improve MS symptoms because it restored myelin. So, you may want to concentrate on prolactin enhancement (fenugreek, goat's rue, hops (or beer if you can).

Fawn

[wiccanwoman]

Thank you for the advice gals ! This site is truely wonderful, kudos to all those that put time and effort into it !

I looked into progesterone creams and finally decided on Femgest, it seems more natural and it certainly would help my hot flashes and hormone changes even with one ovary I believe I am experiancing ovary shock and it will fuction well enough later but right now is not. Once it is fuctioning I can discontinue it.

I am very familiar with dowsing and it just does not work for me, however I am a reiki healer and very in tune with my body I can easily tell if something is not right for me within a few minutes of its first use. I also have a good friend that is very good at dowsing and has done it for me on health issues I will ask him as well to help.

I did not know fenugreek helped with MS that is indeed interesting..I was concerned with taking it with having low blood pressure..I may substitute fennel instead if it agravates that but I'm hoping the red clover boosts it before I start taking the others, I'll let ya'll know.

I'm going to keep posting my routine and stats. I have been on Grow Yours for 3 days and just last night I saw an old bf (still friends) and he said "Umm you look great..your boobs look huge..are you wearing those fake boob things ?"



Hubby tells me everynight they are larger as well, he is amazed and supportive(even though I had to tell him right now this is about health NOT sexiness and he can't be "pervy" hahaha.

[Wenonae]

O, cool..you have a dowsing friend who can help you out with health thing, maybe also BE. Also have them check the GY program's healthiness for ya.

Wen'

[fawnmarie]

Muscle testing works best for me, but I don't have a tester.

It's not exactly "fenugreek", but prolactin that is supposed to help with MS. You may want to do a little research.

Fawn

[wiccanwoman]

OK so fenugreek increases prolactin then ?

From what I understand so does the Grow Yours program and I'm really doing well on it even in just 5 days.

Not taking then yet but I still want to take herbs as well introing them one at a time to my body so I know if I have a problem with one. Is there such thing as too much prolactin if I take fenugreek, fennel and do GY ?

Also I am having a tattoo done on the 8th (my first heehee) so I'm not going to start herbs till after but do you see any reason I should not get tattoos in the futures while on these herbs ? I know some of them are blood thiners just wondering with the high doses and so many acting as blood thiners if its a bad idea ?

I want my boobs and my tattoos but don't wanna bleed to death lol.

[Wenonae]

fawnmarie said:

Muscle testing works best for me, but I don't have a tester.

It's not exactly "fenugreek", but prolactin that is supposed to help with MS. You may want to do a little research.

Fawn

Hey, there's ways to do it without help. :0

[Wenonae]

Wicaanwoman-

Ya know, the more I see about it, the regimen reminds of this post about an ancient Chinese stimulation method. Hmmm. Anyhow, not all the herbs are blood-thinners. Simply refer to a site like www.drugdigest.com to see if thinning is listed as an effect. Then work with the herbs that are not until your tats heal.

Is it your energy and MS improved..or just the 'girls'?

Wen'

[wiccanwoman]

I do find that after 6 days of grow yours I feel much healthier, I do have mild morning sickness which i find ironic at 8 weeks after a hysterectomy..but whatever works lol and boyyyy is it working weeeeeeee !

I think I will start the herbs after my tats anyway, I started using the progesterone cream last night. I find its making me feel a little "antsy" and restless so I wanna hold of taking anything else till I see how it goes anyway.

Thanks for the link I check up on some info there.

On an interesting note I went to every bookstore in my city and not one had any books on NBE and the herb books they did have were all very lacking in info. Its a shame that more women don't know about this.

[Wenonae]

Wiccanwoman-

It sounds like you're on a little too high of a dose of progesterone cream. Cut what you're doing by half. You should feel 'soothed', not anxious.

Yeah, it's a shame- but least there's forums and the 'Net disseminating info. I agree- there needs to be a few real books out on the issue.

Wen'

[wiccanwoman]

I think you may be right I skipped yesterday and fel a little "calmer", but was only using a very very small (pea sized) drop each night..perhaps I don't really need it.
Going to drop it from my routine.

[Wenonae]

wiccanwoman said:

I think you may be right I skipped yesterday and fel a little "calmer", but was only using a very very small (pea sized) drop each night..perhaps I don't really need it.
Going to drop it from my routine.

I would agree.

Wen'