MORE BE BASICS (ABC's 
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- A.) DO NOT MIX ESTROGENIC HERBS for BE with BOVINE OVARY. You will confuse your body on what it should use as it's source for raised estrogen levels. Choose one or the other. Non-estrogenic herbs are ok with BO (saw palmetto).
- B.) Discussions for products used for BE are here Product Links Read the good, the bad, or the ugly about products you’re considering using.
- C.) Worried about Birth Control pills, progesterone cream + BE? Read here
- D.) Other products available for purchase, but not necessarily as discussed on BEB Not too discussed products
- E.) The best time to start BE supplements (herbs, BO)- during the first few days of your cycle/period (your follicular). This is when the hormonal levels are the lowest so it's typically easier for your body to adjust to higher hormonal levels introduced by supplements. This is also the best time to do a liver cleanse discussed in #F).
FOLLICULAR- Days 1-14
OVULATION- Days 15-18
LUTEAL- Days 19- 28 or later
- F.) If you have been doing BE for 9-12 months straight, do at least a liver cleanse. There's a
juicy thread here DO NOT use hormonal-stimulating herbs or glandular while doing your cleanse. Even massage should be stopped. The cleanse only lasts a 3-7 days. Lots of discussions in the 'Health' folder.
- G.) Massage suggestion. This is based on Reiki principles (encourage fats in towards breast receptors):
Take your fingertips and/or palm, apply firm pressure and massage in the indicated direction. Be sure to do the areola (not the nipples) and the breast itself. Here's a good folder for what to massage on the breasts to try to help things along massage discussions
- H.) How to ramp up on herb routine: begin with 1k of herbs spread equally throughout the day. Generally take on empty stomach unless you have irritation. Ramp up bi-weekly by 500mg. MAX out at 1.5K with fenugreek and 3g’s for most of the other common herbs. Notice if any sensations are felt. Typical sensations , see this thread: sensations
So, read about BE products, check out
others' routines who have used that product or construct a regimen of BO or herbs and off you go.
OTHER FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
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(Inspired from this thread. Thanks tigerlily!)
Gotten from this thread 1. What is the difference between herbal BE and BO BE?ANSWER: Herbal BE is based on herbs. BO BE is based on Bovine Ovary glandular.
2. How does glandular therapy work?ANSWER: Glandular help to repair the health of the respective gland. So, if your ovaries or pituitary is in great working condition- these supplements will not 'help' your BE. BE is about helping your body to achieve the most conducive balance of hormones for breast growth.
3. Which commons herbs seem to cause some women to gain weight? Which ones usually don't?ANSWER: Saw Palmetto (blocks testosterone, so you lose muscle), Red clover, fenugreek, and others. Varies per person, but these are common culprits.
4. Is it necessary to use precursors for BE?ANSWER: No. If you're in good health, these are not needed.
What are some of the precursors people use, and how often should they be used?
5. Is natural BE safe?ANSWER: In general yes. You need to do liver cleansing of some sort after 8-12 months of continuous BE effort or you'll over-tax the organ that helps with healthy estrogenic processing. Without that organ working, you can have replication instead for unhealthy cells- re: cancer. Now, it takes a lot to put the body in shut-down mode, but we still advocate at least once a year do a cleanse while doing BE.
6. Will my results be permanent if I do experience BE?ANSWER: Yes, if you grew real fats. No, if you just cause water swelling in the breast area. You'll know it's real after you stop BE and your fluctuations stop and your size is still there 3 months after you stop BE.
7. What is dowsing?ANSWER: Dowsing is a method of reading the magnetic fields (biofields) on the human person to assess health or spiritual-based issues. Not everyone can do it and not all to the same level. For more information- go to
this folder8. What if I am just interested in firming up my breasts instead of having them get bigger? Is this possible?ANSWER: Yes. Massage will help with this. Either make your own lotion or buy a commercial version. See the diagram below for how to massage.
9. Will natural BE affected by being on the birth control pill?ANSWER: It can be positive or negative. See the comments above about BE + BC. Some BC can inhibit BE efforts. If you are not muscle-testing or dowsing, then try BE with your current BC. Yasmin BC (or Dianne 35) seems most supportive towards BE efforts.
Should you take herbal BE or BO if you are pregnant or nursing?
ANSWER: Again-
see this thread. in general, do NOT do BE + pregnancy.
10. What if I just need one breast to get bigger to match the other?ANSWER: You may want to try to do massage only that breast. Also, breasts are not exactly the same size and don't grow at the same rates. Sometimes doing a BE regimen for a shorter time 1-3 months will allow the smaller one to catch up on its own
11. Does massage make a difference?ANSWER: Some don't need massage. If you find yourself terribly sore or you don't like how it feels- then it's likely not needed. Massage raises prolactin levels. Prolactin + estrogen= fats stored in breasts.
12. Which is better, dry massage or with a lotion?ANSWER: It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you're after raising prolactin levels- you can use any lubricant like Cocoa butter, body oils, or lotions that allow you to massage for 1minute or so.
If you're trying to absorb through BE help at the breast area, you'll want a base of either olive oil or food grade aloe vera so it can absorb transdermally.
13. How often should you massage if you're doing it?ANSWER:Once a day using the methods described at the top of this thread. TIP: If you have fats growing elsewhere on your body, try skin brushing those areas and kneading along with massage 2x's a day to pull fats to stay in your breasts.
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14. Is pituitary gland safe to take?ANSWER: If you don't have an issue with your pituitary, then it's not a good idea. However, as a whole when treating an issue glandulars are generally 'safe'.
15. What is an anti-androgen?ANSWER: 'against'-androgen...prevents the body from processing and absorbing testosterone.
16. Why is it suggested to do a liver cleanse before starting BE?ANSWER: (See above)
16a.I heard that fennel oil can cause miscarriages, is that true?ANSWER: St. John's wort has been verified to cause abortions. If you get pregnant while on herbs, simply stop the herbs. Everything should be ok.
17. How do I know if I have dominant hormones of one kind or another?ANSWER: You have to look at the symptoms your body produces. There are also free online tests which can help with the assessment. In general you want a balanced system which you can place in estrogenic balance conducive to growing breasts.
18. How would it affect my regime if I were estrogen dominant?ANSWER: You may want to have massages included so that the fats u produced are pulled to your breasts.
19. How would it affect my regime if I were progesterone dominant?ANSWER: You will need to ramp up to 'high' (2-4g's) levels of herbs to overcome the negating effect of progesterone.
20. How long does it take on average to see some results?ANSWER: IF you using the correct items, 1 cup every 3-5 months.
21. What is the best way to measure yourself in order to notice the results as they are happening? ANSWER: Vertically across the nipple to the collar bone (or where fats stop), Horizontally across the nipple to where the fats start by the armpit to the middle of the chest where the fats stop (you feel bone).
22. Will herbal BE cause my hair to thin or fall out?ANSWER: No, unless you were on an inordinate amount of Saw Palmetto (10-20g's) and you don't need it. Most balding problems are because the body is over-producing ADHT on its own.
23. Does herbal BE cause cellulite or water retention?ANSWER: VERY possible, especially if you're using the wrong things.
24. Does increased estrogen cause more fat cells or a fattier appearance?ANSWER: Estrogen promotes the growth of estrogen sensitive tissues, leading to an increased size of adipose (fat) tissues in the waist, belly and other estrogen sensitive fat tissues (whatever your body type is).
25. Are there any known health risks to taking herbal BE or BO?ANSWER: Over-stressing the liver..which means the body can't properly process estrogen..which could lead to the body reproducing un-healthy cells (re: cancer). This takes a LONG time for the average healthy individual [high doses for 2-3 years] We advocate to be safe...do a liver cleanse every year you're playing around with BE.
26. Are there any people with certain diseases who shouldn't try glandular therapy or some of the herbs for BE?ANSWER: Anyone with any type of liver disease shouldn't try BE without medical (or body-tested) guidance. period.
27. Will natural BE work for women of any age?ANSWER: Typically between 18-52 yoa (or for those who have periods, or just finished peri-menopause).
28. What is skin brushing?ANSWER: It's literally brushing the skin. This helps push fluids /fats towards lymph nodes to be flushed/cleared by the body. Here's more
here29. Who needs to do it?ANSWER: As it relates to BE- not all need to do it. If you find you have cellulite increasing- skin brushing helps to keep this at bay.
30. How do I know if I should use EPO for BE?ANSWER:Those who've had success with BE using EPO (which contains about 9% GLA) form muscle very fast and easily (which means they have naturally higher testosterone levels).
GLA has been reported to increase aromatase levels in the body.
testosterone + aromatase (an enzyme which activates at 98.6F)= higher estrogen levels.
31. What's the difference between EPO & Borage oilANSWER: Borage oil has higher concentration of GLA (~20-23%). More is not always better. If GLA helps your BE- EPO will do the job. Additionally, if EPO isn't for you, PMS symptoms will worsen or stomaches will come.
32. What's the role of HgH and BE?ANSWER: HgH + estrogen = fats grown and fats grown faster. Hgh can be raised naturally via moderate exercise. It also is released during the first 90 minutes of sleep. So sleep well on a BE regimen. Eating a starchy meal before sleeping will inhibit release of HgH, so avoid that 2hrs before sleep.
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