just a question....

[JustMe23]

i read that protein is good for BE, but how much is enough? i don't dowse, but i was wondering if there was a "set" amount that is enough or is it something that you dowse for? just curious.

i was hoping that i could be a person that wouldn't have to dowse to get good results 'cause i tried it, but i don't think i can ever get "in tune" with my "p". i think most of the girls here with results dowse for BE, but is there a chance that i can get good results without dowsing? i guess that is hard to say since everyone is different, huh?

ok, sorry....that's 2 questions...

[flatandgreen]

No, I don't think there's any set amount. Just be aware of if you're getting protein -- eggs, dairy, beans or legumes + some sort of grain = complete protein (vegetarian way of getting all the essential amino acids you get from meat).

I think you can get results w/o dowsing, you'll just have to be patient, as dowsers are. Have hope.

[HoneeBee]

i havnt had much success with dowsing. so the next best thing is research. Do some homework and look at the herbs you find on this board and do a little research on them and what they do for BE. check the links section on this sight and on the NBE Quest forum. they lead to very interesting articles. you can check routines to find out approximately where you should start with dosage. you can also check BO and see whats that about. usually if you feel confortable about what these products do you will probably feel more confortable about choosing a routine.
You dont really need protein. especially if you get enough in your diet already. they may help with overall health but there are alot of women that have had success without it.

you are probably better off taking a multivitamin
especially with folic acid and vitamin D
also fatty oils like flaxseed oil, Evening Primrose oil/ Safflower oil ( borage oil),. These will help reduce the risk of cancer and other breast problems, increase your overall health,and may asist in your BE efforts. as for protein suppliments you can drink 1-2 servings of protein shakes a day. or drink a shake now and then is quite alright some times during the week . you dont need to overload on any of these suppliments. women on this forum tend to use these suppliments to improve their health and to prevent any potential problems from their NBE quest

[JustMe23]

thank you very much for your replies.

i usually don't get a lot of protein in my diet. i can't have dairy. and i don't eat a lot of meat. but i tried eating a lot of peanuts to see if that would help.

i will have to check out the links section. i haven't done that yet. i have a routine already, but it is just slow. i posted my stats and routine already if anyone cares to look. i think i am just getting impatient. it's been a couple years for me with trial and error and i think i just want it to be done so i can enjoy it. (if it all works for me)

as of yesterday, i got angry with it and am taking a break now. so i think i am going to splurge on the stuff i like but can't have (just a little) and then do a detox thing and get back with my routine later.

[HoneeBee]

i believe there is protein powder that you can add to any beverage (like juice) or you can get a multi amino acid tablets. like i said you dont need it but it wouldnt hurt.

please dont be discouraged there are so many things you can do still. you can stick with your current routine and do massages and hypnosis and see were that takes you. but give your routine a good 4-6 months before you quick or try something new

if you are on a break now you can use this time to re-evaluate your routine. in the routines section you should look closesly at Wenonae, mominator, lucille, hippychick, islandgirl if you havent already.
there are different techniques

you can try BC and phytoestrogen to mimic breast growth during pregnacy. that has worked well for some of the women above. there are so many phytoestrogens. there are many women that have found some progress with these:
research these (google) as phytoestrogens. there may be little about breast enlargement but there are some women on this site and the old forum that have used it with some degree of success
licorice root
yucca
thyme
hops
red clove
*wild yam
*fenugreek
*fennel
pueraria mirifica

... check out fawn's site for more. you may have to ask her cause i cant seem to find the page where she lists all herbs and suppliments for BE.

You can try using Progesterone blockers and phytoestrogesn herbs ( meh... with or with out BC) this is suppose to mimic puberty ( lower progesterone, elevated estrogen)
2 examples include:
Oregano
Damiana
but some of the herbs i listed as phytoestrogens also are progesteone blockers as well


I believe most of the women above used booby batter and they do massages. you can check lucille's posts for more more information. this really seems to pick up growth by elevating prolactin.

there is hypnosis.... google (look in alternatives section for different kinds of software. Summerlove also seems to have had success with that so you can check her out although her CDS are a bit pricey.

im sure you no most of this stuff already but while on your break you can dive in deep to find a routine you are more confident the next time around

if you are really interested in learning more i suggest you go back to the first page of posts ( in the general section) and work your way up. but the first 3 pages of post have alot of info on it. then everything else is just glimps at what catches your eye.

i find the best way to get the most out of this forum is learning as much as you can by driving in and reading as much as you can in it. the more you read the more information you will be able to put together that may help you to develop to tweak your own routine. most of the women on this board found success through tons trial and error so buy the time you find something that works you will be an expert

[Wenonae]

Yes, there's a chance you can get results. Just is very, very hard to do so. So far, there's only been Pammy who's had results here with trial and error to the tune of not just one cup, but like 3-4. Honebee has some good suggestions. Yes, protein is needed to provided energy for growing breasts fat, but without the correct complimentary NBE regimen, you'll just be eating well. The hardest part is finding what you need. The ramp up part, you can fuddle around and still have success.

Best of' in your BE endeavors.

Wen'

[JustMe23]

thank you very much for your replies. i will check out all that info during my break from BE. i was thinking that maybe i was overloading with herbs or something. i have given myself breaks before, but never more than a week, i think. so this time, i am going to break for longer than that. so, that will give me time to look things over. i also need to buy another heating pad since mine broke. but thank you again for all this info. it is very appreciated.

[fawnmarie]

Um, Mominator and I both did fine without dowsing as did Lucy. Dowsing can make it quicker, but the three of us managed a cup or two with trying things out (oh, and some research).

The herb fenugreek is a phytoestrogen and it also enhances prolaction output.

Women with blood sugar problems probably shouldn't use it though. Red clover or fennel is better for them.

Saw palmetto is useful for all BE programs, as it blocks DHT a form of testosterone that inhibits breast growth.

As for protein - minimum is 60 grams a day. Ten ounces of protein foods per day approximately. Eggs, nuts and meats are fine.

Fawn

[Wenonae]

fawnmarie said:

Um, Mominator and I both did fine without dowsing as did Lucy.

Hey:d, I speak from experience. I also 'grew' about a cup on trial and error adding and subtracting items until I tweaked something that would respond for me. That gave me the limited success, however, I lost it all within 2 months of stopping those pills. Pammy is still only one on this board that grew doing T&R with more than 2 cups, in fact 3-4 permanent cups, as I'd mentioned above. Also, I've always said trial and error is possible to succeed just way HAAaardddeeerrr to do it. I wish I had a choice 4+ years ago to do it this way. I'm a lazy bum..just wanna know the answer and move on.

That being said, dowsing only enables a better chance...doesn't absolutely insure success of permanent growth of 0.5-4 cups. NBE Success 50% about being diligent and consistent. Dowsing just potentially helps abet a 1-5+ year expensive, frustration program to more cost effective program of 6-18 months8-)