new and wantin' to grow boobies-I have QUESTIONS!!

[desperatelyseeking]

Hi! So I am extremely excited that i found this sight. I actually found it a few days ago but I've been busy doing research and now I feel up to par to join in on the breast growing process with you ladies. My boyfriend just recently left town and for some reason I have become extrememly obsessed with making my breasts larger. So obsessed to the point that I have actually not been sleeping at night because I can't pull myself away from researching the whole idea of BE. I actually missed a party last sat. night and stayed up until 9am even though i was exhausted b/c i feel this need to research. actually, right now, it is 5am, i am shooting something for tv tomorrow (i'm an actress) and i still can't pull myself away from this freakin' computer. i have so much to share with you ladies.

i'll start by introducing myself and my stats:

i am 5'4'', my weight shifts between 116-120lbs. just depending on the day. i have never been heavier than this and i am a personal trainer as well so i am very physically fit. i have muscle and no matter how fit i get, i always have some fat and cellulite on I disagree and thighs. i am 25 years old, i act like a 12 year old though, i'm a huge goof ball and i look pretty young for my age. i guess i have a pear body shape, according to one of the body type survey links on this website, i am a "nurturer body type." i am white, i have been, or i should say, i was a vegetarian for 15 years, i began when i was 10 years old, however i did eat fish. about a month ago though, i began adding some organic chicken and turkey back into my diet. i am a size 32b cup but realistically i can fit into some a cups i just don't want to admit that to myself so i don't buy them. i just bought a really sexy 34b cup bra @ the victoria's secret semi-annual sale b/c i know that i am going to be able to be bursting out of it soon enough (positive thinking). i wear a size 2, am very concerned about gaining weight on a BE program b/c genetically i am proned to cellulite. my 16yr. old sister who has more muscle than me b/c she is a competitive gymnast is a size 34c or 36c cup, my grandmas are both d-cups as well as my aunt, and my mom is a 34 or 36 b or c. i have always been the smallest cup size out of all of us. i didn't get blessed in the breast. i have never had children but i have been on ortho-tri cyclen for years now. at one point when i first went on it i was extremely skinny (i had exercise anorexia--where you workout too much and eat very minimally) but i had thes fantastic c-cups, which eventually went away when my body got used to the pill, this was all around age 19. by the way i'm 100%healthy now.

i had been researching brava, convinced that this was the answer to my prayers, but i read a lot of horror stories about it, (if anyone has questions, i've read tons of links and posts on it). i am pretty crazy about my nipples (they are nice) and i don't want to risk f**king them up as many women claimed it did. i also have a really good shape to my breasts, they are certainly perky, they just kinda sit there. i want to feel what it feels like for them to hang just a bit! i am so obsessed with breasts, I WANT THEM!!

so my questions:

after researching different herbs and such as well as bovarian ovary BE i think i would like to do an herbal program but am i not a good candidate b/c i am on BC?

i am not at all a hairy woman and i would like to remain that way and i also would not like to loose any of my hair on my head(no more than normal) and i feel like a BO program is more likely to cause one of these two effects. is this correct?

for some reason tonight, i bought fish oil, evening primrose oil and dong quai. i read fawn's website and i will detox tomorrow. what do you recommend i do after that?
can i begin my program the same night i detox?

i think i will return the dong quai and purchase saw palmetto instead. is this appropriate for me?

how should i go about taking the EPO and or the fish oil? do these pills do the same thing? i should take both at night b/f bed? switch off? do i even need them both?

should i purchase some actual EPO-oil form, for boobie batter? what exactly should i customize in my boobie batter? just what it says on the botanicals lab website?

do you recommend i also take the growth hormone precursors, l'arginine and l'ornithine b/f bed?

i am sorry i have so many questions, they have been building up. this research has been occupying my time completely. i want to start a BE program asap, i'm ready to have real women's breasts!

thank you for your help. if the moderators could answer my questions that would be amazing as well as all of my new fellow BE girls, if you have any advice I'd greatly appreciate it. also if anyone is in a similar boat as me bodytype and breast size wise w/out children and on BC, basically similar stats, i'd greatly appreciate your advise and input!!!

thank you, thank you, thank you in advance.
i am so excited to be joining this journey with you women
xoxoox

[dustashesdog]

Hello. Fist of all I must apologies for terrible spelling and grammer skills. (I never said I was smart )I am hardly an expert, but I will tell you what I gather to be true about BE. Also,Fawn is a regular here, and she runs a wonderfully informative site called www.botanicalbeautylab.com/index.html
Not to mention she has hands down the best prices on BE supplies that I have found anywhere! I can tell you what is true for me , though everyone is very different.
First of all I know nothing about how different BE methods effect BC or vice versa. Ill leave that one to one of the other ladies.
I have been on BE for 3 weeks and, though some will say it is to soon, I have not expearienced any abnormal hair growth or loss. I think (though again Im no expert) you maybe more likely to expearience these things depending on certain hormonal conditions. YOu can take a test here
www.johnleemd.net/forms/hb_test.html
or here
www.stenlake.com.au/testwomen.asp
, (though I found them vegue, they may be helpful to you)
I dont know alot about the oils, except that I have used EPO for external massage, and found that I ran out quickly, and it was too expensive, so now I just use olive oil. However, Wahaika has found that for massage Borage oil has a higher concentration of GLA (whatever the f@#$ that is! ) than EPO. I found his routine post(for his wife presumably ) very informative, though it is based on herbs moslt rather than BO. Read it if you can. Its kind of hard to understand but it has prooved invaluble to me,
beboard.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=Routines&action=display&thread=1074738958
You can begin your routine after, or even during a cleanse, from what I understand. However give yourself some time (maybe, say 3-4 hrs?) after taking steps of the "clense" as you dont want to "wash" the growth agents right out of your body before they can be exsorbed)
I understand that our body grows more actively at night, in our deepest state of sleep, so the l's(orthinine ect.) are important to take a half hour before bedtime, on an empty stomach, along with your night dose of herbs--unless you are taking BO, in which case you should take tha BO with your last meal of the day(high protien[33g]) at least 2-3 hrs before taking the l's and crashing out.
As far as massage, some may say that the most important thing is the stimulation of the skin and nipples>which stimulates "prolactin" production> which blocks "dopamine"(which comes from cigarettes and other daily "vices" ???and inhibits BE). As well as increasing blood flow throughout the breast. Others say that the herbs/oil IS absorbed topically, and acts on estrogen receptors on a surface level. When your going for the batter, from what I understand, prettymutch anything goes, as long as it doesnt inhibbit BE (or stain your night shirt ) Personally I keep it simple.
Ask away girlie! And heres to bein a PERFECT 10 STACKED HOTTIE! WAHOO!

[Wenonae]

Hiya.

Have you had a chance to looked at the pinned threads at the top of this folder. Kinda re-hashes, summarizes BE.

Dustash,
Nice summary for being new at this!!!

[dustashesdog]

wenonae said:

Hiya.

Have you had a chance to looked at the pinned threads at the top of this folder. Kinda re-hashes, summarizes BE.

Dustash,
Nice summary for being new at this!!!

LOL, too mutch time on my hands, not enough breastage in them

[desperatelyseeking]

i have looked at the all the beginning threads of this and many other folders. i am still kind of in the dark. i bought fawn's book, "real breast book" and i am eager to start doing the P-method. i have to figure out what to use as a pendulm (sp?) though. i don't wear rings nor do i have a perfectly symmetrical earring that is pure gold or silver. so, some unanswered questions...

can anyone tell me if BE or BO is right for me after looking at my stats?

i did take the hormone tests, i don't think that i have any hormonal deficiancies. they did seem vague, you're right dusta. i do have a hard time falling asleep, insomnia sometimes, as well as lots of anxiety and depression on some days, but i think this is more a result of being an actress that is insecure and constantly comparing myself to the models that i go up against in auditons. as well as results of my fears that are a result of my insecurities that i won't make it, that i'm not good enough, pretty enough and so on and so forth. i drive myself crazy with my insecurities sometimes, most of the time, but this is not hormonal i don't think, it's mental! also, i live in nyc and i got attacked on the street after performing in a show a few months back; some guy tried to strangle me to death and so forth/kill me when i was walking to the train to go to my boyfriend's house, it wasn't late, nor in a particularly dangerous neighborhood, and that has also played a key role in all these issues, it has escalated them to say the least. i am in the process of trying to find a cheap therapist....off the topic a bit, sorry gals...

anyhow, back to breasts: i have actually already checked out all the websites recommended, i'm telling you, i've been doing my research. i just don't know which boobie batter or combo of pills to really begin taking. i have read almost everyone's different routines as well as the ones listed on the botanical beauty lab and i still feel in the dark about where to begin.

i guess i don't know if i shoud go with BE or BO being on birth control, orthotricyclen to be exact.
can anyone recommend if they think i should swith to yasmin?

about the fish oil and or Epo, how should i go about with taking those?

should i return the dong quai and get saw palmetto instead. ?

i bought the "brands solaray" and "nature's way" and "health from the sun" does anyone know anything about these brands?

should i quit eating so many soy products?

i'm confused about the cycles. the beginning of a cycle is the first day after your period ends? or when your period begins?

thanks for y'all replies. i've been looking forward to them! my computer and this website has become my new best friend. these days i'd much rather sit home and do research on this website and on be than go out with my friends

looking forward again as i am desperately seeking breasts and answers on how to go about getting them!

thanks ladies!

ds

[Wenonae]

desperatelyseeking said:

i have looked at the all the beginning threads of this and many other folders. i am still kind of in the dark. i bought fawn's book, "real breast book" and i am eager to start doing the P-method. i have to figure out what to use as a pendulm (sp?) though. i don't wear rings nor do i have a perfectly symmetrical earring that is pure gold or silver. so, some unanswered questions...

can anyone tell me if BE or BO is right for me after looking at my stats? ........i guess i don't know if i shoud go with BE or BO being on birth control, orthotricyclen to be exact.
can anyone recommend if they think i should swith to yasmin?

about the fish oil and or Epo, how should i go about with taking those?

should i return the dong quai and get saw palmetto instead. ?

i bought the "brands solaray" and "nature's way" and "health from the sun" does anyone know anything about these brands?

should i quit eating so many soy products?

i'm confused about the cycles. the beginning of a cycle is the first day after your period ends? or when your period begins?

thanks for y'all replies. i've been looking forward to them! my computer and this website has become my new best friend. these days i'd much rather sit home and do research on this website and on be than go out with my friends

looking forward again as i am desperately seeking breasts and answers on how to go about getting them!

thanks ladies!

ds

O, wow!

Well, the answer to all your questions can be easily answered after you get ur 'p' going .

Seriously, a group of like 4-5 of us collected information used ourselves as geneua pigs to understand if body type, blood type, all this stuff helped produce an effective NBE routine. The short answer is, there was no correlation.

However, when most of that same bunch started dowsing, we verified that the individual needs ranged A LOT. The factor that we could not analyze without labs and tons and tons of clicnical work, is the effect of each genetic code on each NBE routine.

Therein is the beauty of dowsing. You don't have to have labs or 1000's upon thousands of clinical trials...you just need to 'listen within' to what you need.

Yes, many dowsers did find that Yasmin would help the better, yes, several dowsers did find that they needed fish oils, but not everyone.

Using the p-method, you can also rate how healthy a particualr brand is for your body. Somethings work better for other people. In general, the Solary and the Nature's way have good reviews here. I use the butcher's broom from them because it rated 750/1000 for me (600/1000+ is good).

Period generally is Day 1 of your cycle. Follicular is from 1-14, ovulation 14-16, Luteal 16-end. Dosages usually vary most between follicular and luteal.

Keep all the stuff u have until u are able to check if u need them or not using the p-method. Then determine what to take back. Soy products may not be an issue for u (something else to dowse about).

Dowsing questions...post to that forum that's on the e-Book and/or the Alt. Methods folder. Lots of experience we now have, thereby lots of knowledge to share.

[desperatelyseeking]

thanks for the info wenonae.
a bit of a ramble...a good friend of mine is a yoga instructor and very much a yogi-one whom yoga is a way of life for. she is very spiritually connected to the earth, energies, and so forth. i told her about my be obsession and the time i've been spending researching. although she was laughing at me at first with the bogus things i thought would work, one after the other, when i told her i wanted to start using the p-method and that i believed in that, she said that that is the only thing that i had mentioned thus far that seemed like it would work, she's been using a pendulum for years and truly believes in it as well. i am off to her yoga studio today, not to buy a pendulum b/c she says that the ones there are made of wood and gems and that they absorb energy rather than being a neutral conductor of it. but i am going to buy myself a necklace, 100% silver that i have been wanting, that is perfectly round and supposively carries the power of bringing one radiance. there are other necklaces that also contain the ability to bring one wisdom, peace, and so forth. just thought i'd share with y'all.

p.s-wynonae, great progress! i hope i grow like you!

[dustashesdog]

Hello again miss Desparado.
Um, still dont know about birth controll, but when I tried herbs I was extreamly moody. Also I think I have borderline "Hypoglacemia", which made it difficult to have too mutch of an "empty stomach" to take herbs on. Other factors that made me choose BO were, that the herbs made me terribly moody, I love coffee, and most of all that my P said it would be safer and faster.
I got two beautiful Ps on ebay for about 5 bucks each before ship. One Quartz one moonstone. So you may want to check it.(just be sure to "cleanse" them)
Anyway if you think there safe, go on and use what you bought. It takes most of us a long time to reach our goals so, you can "tweak" or change your routine as you run out of supplies, or learn how your body responds.

The way you describe your attention to the board reminds me of me. It is very exciting for those of us that are hesitant to put forign objects in our bodies. I like how you opened up about your insecurities right away, as I too felt this board gave me a sence of validity to all the "crazy" feelings and insecurities that consume my everyday concience.The things you cant talk to most people about.
Sorry to hear about the loony attacking you too. It is strange. The other day I went to Walgreens to by my baby diapers at like 7:am and some guy pushed me down and started yelling "Im gonna CUT you you c@#$, you f@#$%^& p@#$% c!@#%". It was really scary how the parking lot was really crowded, but then everybody just "dissapeared". And that was in lil' ole' Nashville too!

[desperatelyseeking]

wow dusta, i am sorry to hear about your experience as well. i don't know if it is still affecting you or how big of a deal it was to you, but make sure you don't experience PTSD (post tramatic stress disorder) as i am and that you take care of yourself emotionally if needs be. of course i'm going to open up to you guys right away about my insecurites and such, although new, i have trust in this website and the women who use it. i feel a kinship with you women, and instant bond so to speak. i love that i have people to share this journey with, even though i haven't even started yet i can't tell you how much this website has already helped me.

are you finding that bo is working for you? any side affects? please keep me updated with your progress as i check this website like it's my job. i keep telling people that i wish i was getting paid for all this research i'm doing! hopefully in the end, big, very full, natural, c-cup titties that pour out of my bras will be the payback!!!

ds