Hello to all! I am new here( kind of)

[Pola]

hello!

I have been a non registered member of this board since the beggining of February. Just never had guts to post. I have read almost everything and THANK YOU ALL very much. Fawn and Nomi, you are really incredible. My knowledge of BE is in a much better shape now, although I am still confused and all the enormous amount of info just mixed up in my mind.

Anyhow, here is about me:

Age: 31, 2 kids (2 and 4) both breastfed for 15 and 26 months. Before pregnancies I was full A or a small B.
After I weaned the second child, I was left with two empty little socks (sorry), this really brought me to BE, just to rebuilt what I have lost. Maybe I started too soon after weaning ( about two weeks), all the hormones... and still had some milk for a month when squeezed my nipples.

I started BE after some research (probably not enough) with Complete La Femme caps on January 22 2004. I was in the middle of my cycle, but then I didn't know about importance of the 1st day. During the first month nothing really happened until the luteal swelling which suprisingly stayed with me after the AF. The second month I got more fulness and grew about half inch. The third month I started supplementing with 1x610 mg fenugreek and 2x680 saw palmetto. Did not notice more growth. And then my period came on the 28th day, which is unusual to me because my cycle is around 34 days. I have stopped herbs about 4 days after my period and couple of days after that started spoting quite heavily for 5 days. Righ now I wait for AF not really sure when to expect it. I am on the 26th day today.
I don't know if it is important or not but I also started Stri Vectin 5 days before that unexpected AF. Could that be reason?
Additionally, I tried the pendulum using all info from this board, and got a very strong NO La Femme answer, and no to all herbs. This is exactly when I stopped BE. I kind of freaked out. Pendulum said YES to BO, but when I bought some BO from the local health food store it said no to it.
So now I am confused. I realize that I have to clear my mind before using pendulum and not suggest desirable answers but it kind of difficult to me. I will try again.
I would like to start BE again, maybe with this AF or the next, I am thinking about progesterone cream only for the next cycle.

I am petite:
5'1" tall, 103 lb, empty 31" bustline just bust before BE (32" after 3 cycles, and 31.5" now - lost 0.5")
From your discussion on the body type I guess I am comunicator because my shoulders are wider 36" than my hips 34", waist 27". Dr. Lee test suggested nurturer, I did not have many symptoms just some PMS, cramping on the first day of AF, and some fine light hair on my face. Also I am quite tired most of the time but that I blame on not sleeping through the nigth for over 4 years ( since my first pregnancy and now my kids wake me up couple of times each night). I like to stay late each night - only time for myself, and my cutties get up soon after 6 am.
With the BE herbs I noticed more tiredness but no PMS and painless AF with some unusually large clots of blood which also really scared me. I am on IUD birth control without any additional hormones. My aunt told me that IUD can cause large clots in the menstrual blood. Is this true? I have never had these before, only after I started BE.

I guess I should stop now, that was long, sorry. I could go on but it is really late.
Please, if you have any suggestions for me or any questions I will be so happy.

Happy growing to everyone, love your board!
And forgive spelling or grammar as English is not my first language.

[mominator]

[glow=teal,2,300]Welcome to the Board Pola! [/glow]

Wow, sounds like you have had some success. GREAT! Congratulations. I agree with you, depending on when your cycle should start...I would definately do progesterone cream, just make sure it has "progesterone usp" in it. Otherwise it is just w/y cream, and it has NOT been proven to be a phyto-progesterone. That should help your glands enlarge to what they were prior to nursing your children.

Taking a "cycle" break might be JUST what you need right now. You could start progesterone cream in luteal phase, I understand your confusion with when AF will show up...the same thing happened to me, when I started playing with my dosages, and it showed up just like always day 26. I just kinda' never stopped! Kept my dosages the same & everything went back to normal. Being on BE does mess with your cycle, so it's not unusual to have it lengthened or shortened.

Hope that helps, I am sure more will have suggestions for you too! Welcome to the board, ask away!

[Wenonae]

Hiya Pola...wow!..whatta journey.

My suggestion would be since, your pendulum inidcated use of BO, yet when you bought some at the store, it said no!, that perhaps what u had the store wasn't good BO. In fact, whenever I tried to find some locally, it was always a mixed variety (mammary, ovary, etc.) mixed inside, never just plain.

• Try using ur p to indicate which company's BO will work. Pull up a picture and ask directly about it. I have some Vitamin Power BO I could prolly sell to u for cheap (9 bottles), and Fawn has a great deal for those who use this site. www.botanicalbeautylab.com.
  
• DNE sells a capsulated form, which are easier to swallow and have more mgs. www.dne.com

Also, I have used Stri-vectin all the time I've been on NBE, so I truly doubt that's caused your clots. I'd beg to differ that it was the herbs which built up extra lining much faster than it was gotten rid of, and that's how it's coming out. Hopefully, that should stop soon. BTW, there's a cheaper and more effective alternative to Stri-vectin now (use to be Stri-vectin was the only player). It's called Renaissance Cream ($84 w/ shipping).

Let us know what happens!!, and welcome to BEB!! ;D

[Pola]

Hello Ladies! Thank you for your replies, you are soo fast with it and i really appreciate.

So, as you suggested, I will wait for AF and start Progesterone USP ( or apply in luteal only? - I am not clear with that). Even if the dm ring says it is not good I will go for it because I don't think it will do any harm for one cycle.
As for the blood clots, I was just worrying that could be the sign of endo, could it?

Wen, thank you for PM's. I am in ET zone, Canada. I am definitely interested in that site you mentioned. Where do I go for it?
The BO I bought is called raw ovary concentrate 150mg ea., imported by Professional Health Products in Canada. I've tried to search it on the net but no luck. It doesn't say what cows is it made of or where. I think about returning the bottle since I havn't opened it yet.
Before starting BE I was convinced I would never take BO to grow breasts, was kind of scared of long time side effects. So, somehow I have to make up my mind about what my routine will be. Just don't want to screw things, I would rather go for the much lower dosages than ladies are using here. The reason for this extra caution is that my both parents died of cancer - dad was 58, liver cancer, and mom was 46, pancreas cancer. So I might be genetically screwed. Sorry, I don't want to sound sad, am over with that, but things were really bad.

Once again thank you!
Pola

[mominator]

Awwwwee, I lost both my parents rather young too. My Mom was 62 complications of open heart surgery, my Dad 66 colon cancer. Same here...no pity...but understand Pola.

I would start the progesterone cream now, before AF starts, unless you think it's coming within the next 2 days. No reason not too, and it will prolly help with the clotting. It could be endometriosis, if you think it is, then I would get to your Dr.

I did notice with herbal you were NOT on R/C. Which you can't take with BO, but you can take damiana or oregano. Again, both progesterone blockers, so...wait until you take a cycle break. After you come back on BE; don't mess with your dosages for at least 2 cycles, see how your cycle is doing.

Bust of Luck, keep us updated!

[Wenonae]

Hiya Pola,

There are some great sites for BO purchase in the Links, and Product Links section (shared by Melo)! ;D Those sites are the most commonly used ones by members of this board.