new to be-? on routine

[hpquinn]

I started Herbal BE on 3/3/04 and after lots of reading, I have adjusted my routine a bit but I am still confused on if I am taking enough of everything. I am 32 yrs old, 5'6" at 119 lbs. I am a visionary body type, 23% body fat, excess androgens, estrogen deficient. I had 3 children in 4 years and breastfed each one- which made me go from a 34 full B to a 34 AA and flat and saggy to boot. I have a very high metabolism so I tend to eat small amounts throughout the day.

I started out just taking a combined herbal pill for 3 weeks and realized that it just wasnt enough to do anything. So after that I added to it with individual herbs and have just tweaked my routine again based on what I have read.

I am taking the following each morning and each nite before bed:
red clover 450 mg
combo pill 600 mg ( just for another month until the pills run out)
fennel 480 mg
wild yam 500 mg
saw palmetto 540 mg
fenugreek 610 mg

also doing fennel tea at bedtime and massaging 2x daily with lotion made of 1/4 creamy baby oil, 1/2 cup peppermint lotion, 4 droppers each saw palmetto, wild yam and fenugreek.

I have a weakness for chocolate but try to stay away from it- cant do the sugar free stuff, there is just no point. I have cut back from a pot of coffee daily to one cup each morning. I do not excercise, but I take care of my 3 kids ( ages 1,just 3 and 5) plus a 6 month old and 2 other 5 year olds ( yes I am crazy) so I am very active.

Any input / help is appreciated.

Thanks-hpquinn

[Wahaika]

hpquinn,

If you're not seeing any results in about a month, you could up it to 3 times per day then keep it at that for at least three months from that point on before further tweaking.

You might also do more Saw Palmetto - like 3 to 5 grams per day. You can go as high as 7 on that one.

If you are high in testosterone but low on estrogen, you might try adding some EPO internally as well as flax seed oil. The GLA in EPO is a precursor to prostaglandins which is a precursor to aromatase.

Don't forget the heat after the massage.

Wahaika
P.S. It would be helpful for you to add your information to your profile and put your routine into the routine's page. You could just copy that message over.

[gopi]

sometimes a "weakness for chocolate" is a body's way of asking for more magnesium.

[Wenonae]

HPQuinn-

Very nice job of digging in and getting info. This is great source of information.

For the herbal program you have detailed, seems like a great start. Being active is good, keeps blood moving, and excess fats from depositing in too many wong places.

Give it a 3 mos go, see what happens!

[mominator]

[glow=teal,2,300]Welcome to the Board! ;D[/glow]

You have a good solid routine going, but you really should add 1 more dosage in the middle of the day. The idea is to keep your body thinking there is excess estrogen, which aids in growing boobs.

Nice job give some detailed background! You may want to think about adding some progesterone cream every other month...more than likely your "saggies" are caused from nursing & your glands have involuted...progesterone cream does help boost dem glands & give shape back.

The rest looks good!;D Keep it up, just add another dose, bet you start getting tingles.

Welcome to the board!