help me!!

[hopeful]

I was referred to this site by an article rating the success or effectiveness of 'Breast Success' and like products.

I am considering cosmetic surgery as I am 23, have had one child and am sick of not feeling sexy anymore with sand bag A cup breasts!

I would like to exhaust all other options before I resort to going under the knife, but I don't want to waste time for no results.

Somebody please, tell me, what success have you gained from using herbal enhancement. Are we talking a cup size at least? 2, 3? are we all just wishfully thinking or is there hope in this treatment?

If so, how do I ascertain what my body type is, and what routine would be most suitable for me>>

I would love to hear some inspiring stories of success from these treatments, however for once the truth would be good!!

[mominator]

[glow=teal,2,300]Welcome to the Board! [/glow]

OMG! You heard about this site "how?", very interested in hearing about this!

There are a lot of success stories, Pammy, Fawn, Wenonae, Lucille, etc. Not all used the same products, or even herbal. There are so many different ways, and finding the RIGHT formula, regiment, & attitude is the key to success. Most grew at least a cup! Some had some major lifting ;D

We are always theorizing, trying, "testing" different things with BE;). So have a look around, make sure you check out routines, there are some pictures of successes.

Again welcome to the board! Ask away!

[marshall97]

Hello Hopeful
Well, you said you didn't want to waste time for no results. So, here's the truth. No one (to my knowledge and I have posed the question before on this board) has gone from an A cup, or less than an A cup and achieved at least a two cup size increase using herbs or BO. We do have success stories on this board with people increasing their breast size at least two cup sizes, but ALL the ladies who have had this success started at at least a B cup.
That doesn't mean you won't have success, but I would only give yourself a limited amount of time to test herbs and BO to see if they work. Some people tweak their routines for years with no success and that's just a waste of time and money and emotion (my personal opinion, having done it myself).
Bottom line, there's just no way to know if your body will respond until you give it a try.
But, like I said, no one on this board has gone from an A to a C/D if that's what you are desiring.
Also, it's been awhile since I asked about less than A's gaining in size, so maybe there's one or two out there by now who have had that kind of success. Hopefully if they are out there, they will respond to your post with better news. But, I can promise you the numbers don't look good, even if there are a few. The A cups and below just seem to be the most difficult to get growing.
M97

[Wahaika]

My wife went from AA to B using herbs. That is a three cup increase. Specifically, she used Greenbush herbs and Pammy's Routine.

She started a second phase (one phase for us is 9 months on, 3 months off) and had some complications followed by surgery. She is now chomping at the bit to start again, applying what was learned by mistakes made the first time around in spite of the success.

I hope that you can see why she is so excited. She is now starting as a B. Even a two cup increase puts her at D.

It is a matter of attitude and refusing to give up. Lucille has been at it for about 5 years. She has only recently found out her "mix" and now she is growing. Even in optimal conditions with the real hormones during puberty, the process takes years. About 4 if I remember right. (see Fawn's site)

The herbs work. The lower cups just need to start with lower dosages in order to avoid overpowering the lower number of estrogen receptors.

Wahaika

[Wenonae]

marshall97 said:

Hello Hopeful
Well, you said you didn't want to waste time for no results. So, here's the truth. No one (to my knowledge and I have posed the question before on this board) has gone from an A cup, or less than an A cup and achieved at least a two cup size increase using herbs or BO. We do have success stories on this board with people increasing their breast size at least two cup sizes, but ALL the ladies who have had this successes started at at least a B cup.
That doesn't mean you won't have success, but I would only give yourself a limited amount of time to test herbs and BO to see if they work. Some people tweak their routines for years with no success and that's just a waste of time and money and emotion (my personal opinion, having done it myself).
Bottom line, there's just no way to know if your body will respond until you give it a try.
But, like I said, no one on this board has gone from an A to a C/D if that's what you are desiring.
Also, it's been awhile since I asked about less than A's gaining in size, so maybe there's one or two out there by now who have had that kind of success. Hopefully if they are out there, they will respond to your post with better news. But, I can promise you the numbers don't look good, even if there are a few. The A cups and below just seem to be the most difficult to get growing.
M97

Actually, you have a point M97, but I'm hoping to prove you wrong in the going from A to C/ D part by the Fall of this year, because small A is where I started this whole deal.

The hardest part about NBE is knowing what will be most effective, and now that we have the pendulum method, we DO finally have that missing key! Sorry, I'm so convicted now, that I just had to jump in..there IS a way for A, AA or any other cups.

For all's information, there are some A's of all age-ranges currently using this method, and coming rite along. So, hopefully, those stats will be turned TOPSY-TURVY for those type of success, and it will start rite here on ProB BEB!

[sugargir5]

Thanks for the info! i'm also less than an A right now and will be starting SBS herbs this week, and it's really encouraging to hear these successes I'll let u guys know how well it works for me tho it will be awhile....!

[marshall97]

I absolutely think that an AA can go to a C/D cup. I just don't think it is realistic for most people. And this board is proof of that. There is no one to date (who will admit it) who has gone from an AA to a C cup.
And, I am not convinced that trying to mimic puberty is the way for the smallest breasted women to go.

If there is anyone out there who has gone from an AA to at least a C cup, please speak up. We would all love to hear from you!!

[Wenonae]

marshall97 said:

I absolutely think that an AA can go to a C/D cup. I just don't think it is realistic for most people. And this board is proof of that. There is no one to date (who will admit it) who has gone from an AA to a C cup.
And, I am not convinced that trying to mimic puberty is the way for the smallest breasted women to go.

If there is anyone out there who has gone from an AA to at least a C cup, please speak up. We would all love to hear from you!!

M97!!!, sheesh, you gotta give us more time to get those numbers up. We JUST learned about this method. Check back in about 6 months, there'll be numbers then for all to hear and see!

[warriorqueen]

Hi there
I started out the same way! Sandbag A cups! That was about 3 years ago. Originally I used Wonderbreast and had success initially, immediately responding and filling out quite a bit width-wise to around a B cup. This took only around 6 months. Then I had a 3 month break, held the 'growth' and started again with WB. But I started reverting back to an A cup. Maybe cos of losing weight fast cos of travelling (and you lose first up top as boobage is considered your body's luxury fat). Anyway, to cut a long story short, I plodded on for another 16 mos on and off using bovine ovary (which is the sole ingredient of wonderbreast, which has recently resurfaced under the name of Bountiful Breasts) and gained a bit of fullness - even as much as half an inch - but this really yo-yo'd so I guess it was water weight. Then I took about 3 months off before starting to use herbs. I used individual herbs (which helped stimulate growth) then ordered the HBA system which stumped my growth. Now I'm back on individuals, combined with using the dowsing method. I've been dowsing for about 6 weeks now and I think that compared to my old herb routine, progress now is faster. I take about the same amount of herbs, but the doses vary slightly day by day which I suppose is because my system changes constantly. Like Wen, I'm a dowsing fan but I can imagine that it's not everyone's cup of tea. At the moment I'm approaching a full B and don't have any loss of size any more, like I did before. Growth is very slow though, and this entire process is time consuming and a matter of trial and error.
Let us know what you decide to do and good luck!
WQ

[marshall97]

I followed the old board, I'm following the new board. How much time do you want? The poster asked a question and wanted the truth--I gave it to her as it stands right now, today. There will always be a "new" method or new idea pertaining to BE.
But, I'll give you the six months you asked for. And, after that time, I still think the success rate for less than A's reaching a C/D cup will be under 1% of the people on this board starting BE with less than an A cup.
You have to admit that there is a very small percentage of women on this board (or any other for that matter) who grow two cup sizes or more on natural BE, and a very very small percentage of those women who do, start at less than an A cup. Those are the facts TODAY!
I sincerely hope a year from now, things are different! I hope everyone finds the answers they are looking for!
M97

[Tinystar]

Hi people long time no write ;D Sugargrl, I'm new at this too, I started regular herbs 1 month and a half ago and I responded right away, I am an A cup. well I waas doing all good, but then I got sad about a life situation and I stopped taking the herbs and my appetite got bad, and I lost my new growth but since 2 days ago I'm back on the band wagon, and not gonna stop this time but anyways right before I joined this board I 2 considered breast augementation but a yahoo board against it, talked me out of it and referred me to this site, I'm so glad I chose not to do it. I am also like you, I am 21, 1 infant, plus I'm really petite, so they probably would of looked fake, But anyways I just want to share a little letter that a doctor emailed me earlier this year.

Dear Frances:
At your weight you are doomed to a life of problems if you put in implants. I don't care what anyone tells you, you WILL have problems.
There are 2 types -- saline and silicone filled. You can legally only use saline and this will be palpable, and will ripple as you are so thin. Silicone will be better short term, and then they will get very hard and look
like 2 half baseballs under saranwrap on your chest. That's the good part! the rest gets worse.
Simple stated. DON'T. If you want to discuss this in detail, call me at
972.566.7755
I promise I will guide you -- as I would my own daughter. Plastic Surgeons are trained not to see problems with what is a defective device.

DrM

[Wenonae]

marshall97 said:

I followed the old board, I'm following the new board. How much time do you want? The poster asked a question and wanted the truth--I gave it to her as it stands right now, today. There will always be a "new" method or new idea pertaining to BE.
But, I'll give you the six months you asked for. And, after that time, I still think the success rate for less than A's reaching a C/D cup will be under 1% of the people on this board starting BE with less than an A cup.
You have to admit that there is a very small percentage of women on this board (or any other for that matter) who grow two cup sizes or more on natural BE, and a very very small percentage of those women who do, start at less than an A cup. Those are the facts TODAY!
I sincerely hope a year from now, things are different! I hope everyone finds the answers they are looking for!
M97

Ya know..you really are sounding again like that argumentative Gina from MSN again

In any case, yes, you fairly stated what is for 'today'. I just thought I'd end on a more pleasant, positive, and hopeful note. It'd be different if phenominal progress wasn't being made to make me excited to share at only two months, but it is. ;D

All, stay tuned to Alternative Methods folder! The date to mark is Aug, 2004..when we'll see the first round of ladies jump off this here NBE train for good! And, FYI, so far of the 11 I know doing this method with daily checks, 8/11 have sensations and growth already with minor flucuations with AF (some as much as a cup already), and the other 3/11 are on their way..their bodies were 'prepping' for growth as they have not been indicated a lot of internals to take, but instead things such as massages and use of progesterone. This group includes all age ranges (including perimenopausal).

Love those stats..and I'm VERY confident that those numbers will only improve

[marshall97]

Wenonae
I am sorry you find me argumentative. I am not. This board discusses the negatives of breast implants with no problem. This board discusses the negatives of Brava with no problem. But, when someone poses the negative truth about NBE, they are viewed as argumentative. That's not fair. New members of this board ask legitimate questions and want honest answers. And, unfortunately, the only people who ever relpy to their querries are those with nothing but good things to say about NBE. It is wonderful that those who have grown respond with a postive and thoughtful attitude. But, as with everything in life, there are two sides to the story. And no one seems to want to give new members the "negative" side of things. And, I think the negatives are just as important to understand as the positives. How else can someone make an informed decision about what to put in their body?
EVERY method of BE has negatives and postives associated with it. New members, who ask a specific question, should be able to receive both sides of the story without anyone being accused of being argumentative or other members of the board. I am not Gina. I think it is hilarious I get accused of that.

If I go to my doctor and I need a prescription, it would be irresponsible for that physician to give me just the postive side effects of that drug. Why, on this board, are we so afraid to give people the negative "side-effects" of NBE? I don't understand that at all. There are pluses to this method, and there are minuses. Just like with everything else in life. BOTH sides are equally important for new members to understand and appreciate. KNowing both sides sparks independent research, and that is a good thing. It forces people to be more responsible for the choices they make and it makes things easier when breasts don't sprout overnight. If you don't see it that way, Wenonae, then I respect your right to disagree.
But please don't tell me I seem argumentative for being honest, and please don't accuse me of being a member in "disguise". I am not Gina.
M97

[fawnmarie]

I can give a list as long as my arm on the negatives!!!!

Mood swings
weight gain
cellulite
frustration
can be expensive
Takes too long
doesn't always work
requires obsessive nature
requires focus on something that ALREADY seems inadequate...

Okay - NOT quite as long as my arm, but I'm sure there are about 60 of them I missed!

Fawn

Something else I just thought of... I used to have an eating disorder... reminds me of that, somehow, the whole NBE thing...

[marshall97]

Bravo Fawn. People need to know those things. They are important.
M97