temps

[warriorqueen]

It's probably no suprise, but my temps are definitely on the low side!
I've been taking my temps for 2 days. I'm using a glass/mercury thermometer and don't even hit 97! This is taking my temperature by putting the therm. under my tongue.
Are you meant to take OFF one degree taking temps by this method to compensate for your mouth being warmer than, say, your armpit? If so, I'm even lower!

I seem to definitely feel colder over the past few days. If your thyroid is sluggish do you also feel quite sleepy at times during the day, but not able to actually take a nap? If feel like this - also colder around the eyes if that makes any sense. It's more comfortable to close my eyes so they don't feel quite so dry.
I've got L-Tyrosine and kelp which I haven't been taking faithfully, I have to say - I didn't realise my temps were this low. I also have some Solaray thyroid caps which I didn't really take (worried about overdoing unnecessary pillpopping!).

Is there anything else I can do?

Oh yes - I've also been a hairshedder for ages (not now thanks to SP). Is this another sign of low thyroid?

Thanks!
WQ

[mominator]

yes...yes...yes..yes.. to all your questions. You really have to be faithful when trying to correct a sluggish thyroid. Tiredness, loss of hair, COLD extremeties, & low temps are all definite signs that your thyroid is SLUGGISH!

When I discovered my thyroid issue, I started at 500mg L-tyrosine, and dropped an amazing amount of water weight:O But that maybe just me. But I had all the signs you are speaking of, in fact, I really noticed my eyebrows on the outer sides were also disappearing, my skin was looking aged, especially in the face.

Get with it WQ, be faithful with either the Solaray or L-tyrosine. Even now, and I have been on L-tyro for 6 mos, if I miss a dose, I know it, cuz I get cold. You really do have to keep up with your dosages.

Do an iodine test . Simply apply a quarter size drop of iodine on your tummy where clothing won't touch much, and if that iodine patch disappears within 6 hours, you are low in iron, and should use kelp. (another pearl of wisdom from Fawn) ;D

Hope this helps!

[warriorqueen]

Hi Momi,
Thanks for the info. I'm using kelp (2 tabs of quite a low amount - will check exactly how much - what's the dosage required for low iodine?).
Funny you should say your skin, especially on your face, was looking old! I look pretty weary at the moment myself! And I sleep and take my rest and exercise but nothing seems to help much! Did taking the L-Tyrosine help to perk up your appearance? (Guess I'm just vain, but I scared myself this morning, seeing my reflection!).

I'll keep checking my temps. Strangely enough, I don't always feel very fatigued. Or maybe it's just been going on so long and is so gradual that you just don't notice! I've also developed allergies over the last 4 years (4 years ago my father in law died and work stress was at a peak). I think everything kind of got triggered then - an allergies may also be a sign of sluggish thyroid!
Caffeine, nicotine and alcohol are all frowned upon too if you're trying to keep up thyroid levels! Looks like there's no fun left for us! Coffee I can miss, but a glass of wine now and then can be nice...

Bye for now,

WQ

[mominator]

WG,
It really does sound like your thyroid is sluggish. Please do start either the Solary or L-tyrosine. And be consistent with both of them.

Yes...my "aged" looks did clear up after I started the L-tyrosine, it did take a while, but I had let my thyroid get WAY out of hand. My temps crashed twice...I just thought I was cold! The second time it happened, I knew something was wrong, I was wearing jeans, a light sweater, sleeping under 3 covers (2 being blankets) and still FREEZING, the outside temp was about 75 degrees! Never thought of my thyroid cuz I am thin, most people with sluggish thyroids tend to be heavy....so...goes to show you, when you have more than 2 signs...it's prolly your thyroid.

I would most certainly start one of the 2 products you have thyroid. I would start the Solaray, I believe it is a stronger product for sluggish thyroid, then L-tryosine. If you choose L-tyrosine, start at 500mg daily for 4-5 days, check temps, then ramp up slowly to NO MORE than 2g daily. I am on 1.5g which does work well for me. But seriously considering changing to Solaray especially for the winter months.

[fawnmarie]

WQ -

EVERYTHING MOMI SAID!!!!

Actually, the low thyroid is probably caused by all the phytoestrogens you are using. It might bounce back to normal afterward, but you obviously will have to pay attention to thyroid management while you are on herbal BE.

So --- 1. Do the iodine test. If the spot disappears within 6 hours, start using it every day for a week. Then use is once a week. Test again in a month. You can "build up" your iodide stores, so you may or may not have to repeat a daily dose of it. If it still disappears within six hours after a month, then do another week of daily application, then switch to every other day for a week, THEN switch to once a week. You CAN O.D. on it - actually it won't make you sick, but you can overdo it - so don't think about using it every day for a month.

2. Start using your Solaray caps AND your tyrosine. Just take one of each every morning. If temps don't improve after 4-5 days, add another tyrosine in the afternoon. (I'm assuming they are 500 mgs.) After another 5 days, if temps are not up, add another tyrosine in the morning, for a total of 1500 mgs. If you still have problems after two weeks of 1500, you may want to add either another tyrosine or another Thyroid cap. You MUST titrate doses of these two up slowly.

3. You may also want to add coconut oil. Not only does this feed and stimulate the thyroid, but it helps repair all that crappy old skin and hair that wasn't being nourished properly while your thyroid was on the blitz.

4. Consider using progesterone during days 21-28.

Well, caffeine & nicotine & alcohol in moderation - you're also supposed to avoid cabbage, cauliflower & brocolli.

Don't make yourself miserable - just add the above. You will probably be able to stop when you stop BE.



Fawn
(They'll pull my java & smoko outta my cold, dead hands....)

[warriorqueen]

Thanks guys.

Will start on the iodine tonight - and steer clear of cabbage, cauliflower and broccoli.

I also take 2 kelp tabs per day (= Iodine 225ug). Should I take more?

My L-Tyrosine is freebase so I try to get 500mg a day but am not sure my measurements are consistent. Luckily I've got enough Solaray stuff for a while.

I'll keep you posted!! (and enjoy a glass or two of wine while I'm at it....)
WQ

[fawnmarie]

Use the kelp - OR the iodine - not both.

First use the iodine to test. If the patch disappears, you can start on your kelp tablets. Follow the manufacturer's instructions, because the iodide content of kelp tablets isn't standardized.

Take it regularly though, and add the other two. Things should improve quickly.

Fawn

[Katrina]

Ok smart ladies,

It's time to face that I have a problem. I have read this thread on temps and what I can find on your site Fawn.

I am on BO.

My temps are varying in the follicle phase between 96.44 and 97.52, starting on Feb 6th.

I started taking kelp on Feb 8th of 2 doses of 200mcgs to try and help the situation. After 3 days I uped my kelp to 700 mcgs and the next day I finally had a 97.34--that was Feb 13th. But on Feb 14th I went back down to 96.62 and today I had a 97.52.

Am I overdoing it on the kelp? And should I just keep going to see what my body will even out on?

Or should I add in l'tyro?

I eat broccoli and cauliflour almost every day! I didn't know that had anything to do with breast growth. oops! I wonder if this didn't have anything to do with my temps too? Now that I think about it. I know I didn't have broccoli or cauliflour the days before my two good temperatures. hmmm.

advice anyone?

I really like the BO! Lots of tingles and some swelling already in follicle phase on my 10th day. Looks like I am a fortunate soul that grows with herbs or BO. So far my temps don't seem to be keeping me from growing.

Thanks ladies,

Katrina

[mominator]

Hi Katrina,

Those temps are low, and YES broccoli and cauliflower are BAD for your thyroid, works the same as soy, lowers your temps. If you search on the web for "hypothyroidism" you will get more information than you ever wanted. That's where I learned so much about it, also our wonderful Fawn was VERY helpful.

Yes Katrina, start L-tryosine, start at 500mg daily, see how your temps do for 4-5 days. If you are still not in the high 97's, then you can up another 500mg, etc. Do NOT go over 2g daily. If you notice shaking, heart palpatations or hyperactivity, simply cut back on the tyro. Your body will straighten out within a few days.

Hope this helps!

[warriorqueen]

Well here's the update on my thyroid issues. According to a blood test, I'm fine. I was also tested for anaemia and am fine. Temps are still hovering under 97. I do the iodine patch every day (it still disappears after a couple of hours) and take 1000 mg of L-Tyrosine and my Solaray thyroid caps. Also just started using coconut oil. I feel a bit more energised but decided to drop the herbs for one cycle as I need all the energy I can get at the moment!
In terms of growth, over the last few months on herbs I seem to have improved overall shape but nothing measurable. Still a B cup. I think for me BE is definitely a long term thing, so maybe cycling 3 mos on, 1 off is best so I don't build up too much estrogen in the liver etc.

If anyone has any tips, I'm all ears!

Cheers, WQ