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Post by lucille on Feb 5, 2004 0:14:37 GMT -5
Hi Ladies,
Time to get scientific! I want to understand the BE process a little better, so I've begun my research :-). Pretty overwheming!
Is there somebody who can explain this in clear English?
From what I have gathered, we are stimulating the MAMMARY GLANDS to grow, rather than increasing fatty tissue. So, are we making the mammary glands larger or actually growing new ones? And why would this be permanent with BE if it is only temporary during pregnancy or breast feeding?
I read that young women's breasts are mostly composed of glandular tissue. I always thought that large-breasted women just stored more fat in thier breasts ... but do they actually have more mammary glands?
Any input would be appreciated! I'd just like a little better idea what the heck I'm doing to my body!
Lucy
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Post by Wahaika on Feb 5, 2004 0:41:51 GMT -5
Hi Lucille,
Keep on researching! The short answer is that you are doing both, but focusing on the fat storage in the long term.
Generally, progesterone pretty much takes care of the nodes within the glands (about the size of raisins and only around a dozen of them), and estrogen takes care of the supporting tissue including fat - white fat, specifically. This accounts for the size. As for ligaments and connective tissue that gives them their shape, I believe that it is estrogen that supports this but I might have that wrong.
Once you see what the mammary gland is composed of, you will want to know the process of development at puberty and post puberty along with lactation. You will then be drawn to endocrinology and how hormones work and what they are used for, and then phytoestrogens and other phyto-hormones and how they work in relation to their real counterparts. Then you will want to understand some of the microbiology to see what happens right down at the cellular level.
I have some theoretical ideas in my wife's routine (madredesiete's routine) on how the mechanics might work in this process.
I'll go back to my notes and put up some good web site links for you to look at, but this is a fairly broad subject.
Meanwhile, I'm sure you will get plenty of replies with good information.
You might start with searches on mammogenesis, breast development, and steroid hormones. That will give you an interesting start. Google.com is a very good search engine.
Wahaika
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Post by warriorqueen on Feb 5, 2004 9:07:37 GMT -5
Hi Lucille, I've been at BE a while now (to say the least) and to be honest have relied on other people to do the tougher research...  Not too great at biology, that's my excuse! Anyway, I've decided to try googling up a few things to see if I can get to grips with what's meant to be happening. I've come across this link so far: animsci.agrenv.mcgill.ca/courses/460/topics/4/text.pdfMainly about animals - but 7 pages explaining quite clearly how the process of breast development progresses. Watch this space........! |
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Post by warriorqueen on Feb 5, 2004 10:02:52 GMT -5
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Post by gigi on Feb 6, 2004 20:46:21 GMT -5
Wahaika, That is beyond impressive. When does the book come out  ? How much time and effort have you expended on this endeavor? I am floored by this list in addition to all the previous detailed charts, discussions and other goodies you've contributed. Many thanks. |
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Post by Wahaika on Feb 6, 2004 23:46:06 GMT -5
Hello Gigi,
I'm glad you like the list. I hope it is helpful. It is really just a bunch of web sites I have bookmarked as I have done searches and reading. I am sure that there are others on this board with something similar in their bookmarks.
>>"How much time and effort have you expended on this endeavor?"
About two years now.
Don't take the other charts & etc. on the routines page too seriously. That stuff is just my current understanding of how it might work. There is still more to edit/add to those pages.
I cringe every time I read the words "hysteresis logic." I can't believe I wrote that! What a geek!
I think I'll fix that this weekend.
Wahaika
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Post by lucille on Feb 7, 2004 14:41:46 GMT -5
Hi Wahaika,
WHOA! This should keep me busy for awhile! Thanks a million!
Sounds like you have a good grip on the science behind BE. Do you mind if I bounce some of my theories off you as I formulate them? :-)
Lucy (I prefer Lucy)
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Post by teatowel on Feb 7, 2004 16:25:43 GMT -5
I agree with Gigi. I want a book too. Nice. Neat. Organized. Step by step instructions and explanations. Illustrations by Lucy. Nice list. Thanks. tea
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Post by Wahaika on Feb 7, 2004 16:41:23 GMT -5
Lucy,
Absolutely, I really enjoy discussing theories.
I wonder if Mominator or Pammy would approve of a thread specifically for the purpose of working theories?
Wahaika
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Post by lucille on Feb 7, 2004 17:13:38 GMT -5
Funny you should mention that, Tea. Actually, I AM thinking of putting something together!! Maybe not a whole book, but at least a neat, clean collection of information for the "BE Enthusiast"!
These boards are a godsend, but I know I was totally overwhelmed trying to sort things out in the beginning. It also doesn't help that the supplement companies say these herbs are totally safe and without side effects ... yet we all know that some people have had health problems with excessive phyto-estrogens - and I know I'VE had side effects. No weight gain, but definitely cellulite and mood swings.
I want to find the common thread that makes BE successful so we can reproduce those results consistently. Right now, it seems so haphazard - BE works for some and not for others ... and everybody's got a different routine. I know we've all got different hormones and a one-size-fits-all approach won't work ... but there's gotta be a way to make this easier. I hope!
So, let's see what happens ...
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