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Post by Wenonae on May 24, 2004 17:06:27 GMT -5
K..and we continue on. I'll update this comment in a coupla mos at the 6 mos mark. For the time being, will state that yep, my total amounts are indeed much lower; in fact the main phytos are consistent in dosage amounts (3 LR, 3X's a day, 1-2 RC 3X's a day). Vit C and MSM vary 3-6g's a day, and CoQ10 is used only one time a day. Massaging is almost everyday still, though until I had to miss a coupla days due to late arrival of my herbs order, I haven't had to really focus on heat. Seem to do most heat during luteal, interestingly enough. I'm almost, almost outta my 36B's..I mean I want to be outta them so bad, that I can't even close the bugger. Well, that may have to wait on the 'D"s' that come This has been a much less stressful NBE journey; especially after the first 1.5" diametrical inches. No doubts whatsoever on my p indications. Until later!!!
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Post by lilsx1 on Jun 3, 2004 18:58:55 GMT -5
Well I am not so sure I am too excited about the dowsing. While my routine is the same at 7 pills of Quick Bust 3X per day, I feel like my tummy and lovehandles are growing as fast if not faster than my breasts. I also seem to have jumped a band size which brings my cup size down. I was a 34 now I think I am a 36 (my band is 29.5 - 30" and then add the 5", right?)... So I am thinking that I would rather have my slender little frame with a smaller chest than fatter with my belly sticking out further than my tits!!!! Anyway I was dowsed that the belly is supposed to disappear after I reach my goal of a D cup, so we will stick with it and see - right now I am wearing a nice 34 C, and the band seems fine, so I am happy with the results so far! The "P" totally works for me!
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Post by princess26 on Jun 6, 2004 13:36:44 GMT -5
As of right now, I am taking somewhat of a small break. I am still about the same(32C) and loving it! Although I could stand to fill in a bit more on the right side(top), but for right now, not too worried about it. It will come in time. The tops have filled in quite a bit from when I started...just need a little more. I am measuring across both breasts at 9.25 inches. When I started all of this, I was measuring somewhere around 7 inches on the right and 7 3/4 on the left. So I have come quite a long way. The main problem that I have is that my rib cage is fairly large and even though I measure at a C cup, I definitely don't look it. If only I could have a rib removal.... Anyways, just wanted to post an update. And let u all know that yes, I am still alive... ;D I just have been really busy and just got back from a much needed vacation with my kids!!! Much luck to all and hope everyone is well! , Kell
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Post by warriorqueen on Jun 15, 2004 14:21:22 GMT -5
Hi guys, I started using the dowsing method to pinpoint my routine in mid March. I started around 8" across and have since achieved almost half an inch widthwise. I'm a 36" band size, but cheat by wearing a slightly padded 34 C cup (the tops are baggy but you don't notice that under clothes!). I was doing really well for the first 6 weeks - taking around the same amounts of herbs as I had decided was right for me once before. Then stresses of work meant everything went out of the window and the P suggested more EPO and lower herb dosages. Now, after a month of very hectic stuff, I'm getting back into my routine. Now I'm using hypnosis (a CD I'd bought a while back, very inexpensive and a bit cheesy) to kick-start things after a plateau of nothing. I even had to stop herbs altogether for 4 days as my system was probably too exhausted to handle them. The CD seems to be doing the trick. I'm still using quite low dosages of estrogenic herbs, with Dong Quai as a firm favourite (I'd never have guessed it!). I've also noticed the old love handles and belly are slowly getting smoochier. So I've got myself onto a reasonable exercise routine - dowsing suggested that Chromium would help me drop a bit of fat too. My weight is the same, I just feel squishier than before. But the P. thought 3 times of 40 mins moderate exercise would help keep the squish at bay without slowing BE too much. If things continue to be as stable as they are, and I can manage my adrenaline levels, I should be making nice progress. I've noticed progress is far steadier this time - no big gains and losses. My periods are OK too - a bit shorter I think, and not quite as heavy. But I tend to get ratty around ovulation ? Not to mention a bit nervy and wired. If anyone's into coffee, I drink around 3 cups of quite strong coffee a day and it's not interfering with things. For me, the main thing is to stay calm and unruffled which I find hard. I think I need to get the adrenaline going and create nasty peaks and troughs if life is too steady. I've enjoyed using the P. It has certainly come up with a routine that is varied - the same stuff, just sometimes different doses and in different combinations. When I began, doses were higher, then I had to add EPO and Q10. Now my herbal doses are lower, and I'm back on EPO and Q10 in quite large doses. Probably next week it'll just be the herbs. I also take MSM and Vit. C but not daily, and not always the same dose. Good luck everyone. WQ
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Post by teatowel on Jun 20, 2004 7:27:53 GMT -5
Well, its almost another month. I dowse for my dosages 2-3x a day, take what is instructed, cut back on caffeine, ask about 2x week if I'm growing or going to grow to which I get "yes" even though I'm thinking and measuring "no"....and I am still measuring under 5" diameter most of the time. MY AA is wrinkly and my padded A is hollow, my thighs are lumpy bumpy and when I take fenugreek I feel suicidal...though P says its not bad for me...hmmmm. I was looking forward to telling everyone my success story in June. Sorry the news isn't positive...can't help that. Is there anyone else for whom dowsing isn't working? Thanks. tea
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Post by warriorqueen on Jul 13, 2004 12:31:36 GMT -5
Quick update...
I've been dowsing since March and have filled in and gained around 3/4 inch. Can wear a (padded) 36 C but the tops gap although I have definite cleavage.
Started feeling squishy around the mid section about a month ago and the P thought it was caused by herbs. FG causes fat deposits and RC causes cellulite in my case! DQ seems OK. I'd been taking EPO with herbs, and last week decided I HAD to tackle my waistline, BE or no BE. The P reckons I can lose the fat without any BE loss, and confirmed that without herbs the fat would go in any case. In the meantime I am sticking to a new BE routine: 3x daily massage (no agent), hypnosis (20 min session, cheapo CD that apparently I can listen to around the house), around 7000mg EPO daily, throughout cycle, and 100-200 mg CoQ10 daily. It looks as though I can get just as good BE results with this combo. Apparently I needed herbs to start off with, but my system is primed now to respond to EPO alone.
I'm off for a fortnight, but will check in again soon. Good luck everyone! Just a thought... it seems that hypnosis / subliminal tapes work best WITH some kind of other BE stuff - internal routine and massage.
Happy growing!
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Post by Glasskulan on Jul 19, 2004 12:24:04 GMT -5
Hi! I started dowsing about a month ago. I find it fascinating, as my p almost always tells me the same things day after day. I ask if I can get a "yes" and my p starts swinging back and forth. I say thank you to the p and immediately it starts swinging around in circles until I ask for a "no", then it starts swinging from side to side... Still there's a scientist burried deep inside of me who wants to explain things rationally, and Wen, I think you're right about those things you said about, lets call it your subconscious mind, telling you what you don't think about in your everydaylife. It's just that I don't really understand how my subconscious mind could know about things that I've only just heard about. Things that my body has never ever been in touch with. :-? Anyway, the scientist in me is curious about BO, as it seems to work even for men, and because I know that some of you, for whom NBE has been working miraculously, have started off with BO, then switched to herbs. What if BO works like some kind of catalyst for, perhaps especially, women who have never been pregnant (and men)? It seems to be a fact that it's easier for women who have had children to grow with herbs. Thoughts on this subject anyone? Anna
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Post by Wenonae on Jul 19, 2004 12:58:05 GMT -5
....Anyway, the scientist in me is curious about BO, as it seems to work even for men, and because I know that some of you, for whom NBE has been working miraculously, have started off with BO, then switched to herbs. What if BO works like some kind of catalyst for, perhaps especially, women who have never been pregnant (and men)? It seems to be a fact that it's easier for women who have had children to grow with herbs...... Hiya Vickie..per BEB's previous reasoning, BO should have been my ticket to growth. If anyone looks at my routine, I detailed all the things I did to aid the BO..to no avail. Men have much, much lower estrogen levels, so anything estrogenic, is bound to help their mammary glands to respond. So far, nothing consistently provides results besides dowsing. BO is great for some, not for others. If you received a 'no' for its use, I'd not waste time experiemtning or throwing monies away. I did for a whole year..wish I could take it back. I've had no results like what herbs have given me now. ;D
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Post by Glasskulan on Jul 19, 2004 13:15:46 GMT -5
Hi there again! I forgot to mention the most important thing! The thing is that my p says that I could use BO or herbs... Sometimes it has even told me that BO may work better than herbs. That's why I'm so curious about BO.
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Post by Wenonae on Jul 19, 2004 13:42:07 GMT -5
Hi there again! I forgot to mention the most important thing! The thing is that my p says that I could use BO or herbs... Sometimes it has even told me that BO may work better than herbs. That's why I'm so curious about BO. ..well, then..with that important detail known..go with what the pocket book will supply, and what you have easy access to obtain/order. Fawn is seller of VP BO, but is unable to do Int'l shipping for the moment. Finish what herbs you have now..then, if you'd like, switch over. Be sure to re-dowse your whole routine with BO.
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Post by teatowel on Jul 19, 2004 14:22:43 GMT -5
Hi. This is my 5th month of dowsing and I am finally back up to where I was before I started asking Magic P to run my BE program. I am checking in now because I finally have something that resembles a routine.
Fenugreek 4X day (1 dropperful...1000mg. Wow. That's a lot). DQ 3X (1 dropperful).
Marshmallow Root 2X (4 pills)
CoQ10, Multivitamin, MSM, Fennel, RC, LR (all kinda optional as far as I can figure out, but not necessary)
EPO for massage only...NOT Reikki.
Anyway. I am back up to 5 1/2" diameter, 31" around which you all know is difficult for me to maintain. But I am also up to 120lbs. which is a drag because my thighs are all billowy.
That's all for now.
teatowel
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Post by gigi on Jul 20, 2004 20:37:20 GMT -5
Hi tea, Thought it was time to jump in and contribute. I have been dowsing for a while now-maybe just shy of 3 months? To date I have lost a bit of weight but not in the boobs. The overall measurement has gone down about .25 inch but then my back now measures 30" from 31". The left breast measures 6.5" and the right 7" which is a slight gain in each. There is more fullness overall. I don't know how long it will take to achieve a change in cup size since I am peri-menopausal fast approaching menopausal. I do exercise, Pilates, six days a week and I do the skin brushing daily. Walking is also a daily activity. My diet is basically low carb but I'm not religious about it. Just wanted you to know that the thighs and belly needn't be billowy forever. I've been at this for about 3.5 years or more with my butt at times growing way too much and the boobs not at all. The hypnosis was a bust too. However, I think that I have finally latched onto something that is working a little bit. I'm more relaxed as well which I believe helps the overall process. Stay positive!
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Post by warriorqueen on Aug 24, 2004 12:19:22 GMT -5
This is my 5 month update. My routine changes a bit - I've cut down to 3 ingredients: Dong Quai, EPO and yesterday added back in RC. I'm supposed to reach a small C by the end of this month, which looks possible. Growth is steady - no more wild fluctuations. Periods have been heavier - last month clots, this month cramps but lighter. I've been very busy, not on the Board much. Things should be calming down next month. Hope everyone is doing well and has had a great summer!
WQ
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Post by Wenonae on Aug 24, 2004 19:30:36 GMT -5
end of 6 Mos Update:[/u] Well, to at least throw something on here quickly, I am DEFINITELY in my C's now. I'm swallowing a LOAD of pills, like 7g's of VitC, 15g's RC, 15g's of DGL LR, 5g's Valarian root, 2g's VitB complex, 6g's MSM, and have actually reduced Coq10 amount from 600mg intially, to 60mg a day. P suggested I add Immodium-AD, not generic, but name brand. So far, 1-2 of those daily, and only this past cycle. Started making my own capsules of Echinacea/goldenseal per p indicated ratios. So far, I feel just great, cramps much reduced and allergies are much, much better. I also use pharmecuetical allergy med Singulair when indicated by p. This is first time I've been able to tough it out without using pain killers for PMS; use of heating pad was enough, and that was only Day 1, though I act like it's more so I can use on my boobies without rousing suspicion . Hard to do this thing and keep from folks you're around a lot. Making capsules, even now, will save 2-3x's buying from the DISCOUNT sites, so gonna spend less on herbs since I have to buy lots of vitamins. Lucky for me, that Spring Valley WM brand beats out many others or is at least as good to use. Massages, have gone down just a tad in quantity from 4 a day to 2 or 3 a day with the use of hypnosis, which I listen to in morning as I'm getting ready. Only need it 3x's a week, but up to 5x's times, less rub-a-dub-dub, so I'm doing it! Been doing a bit of body dowsing when I can't pull out my necklace p in front of folks, and I'm getting pretty handy at it. Helps to pick out best brand foods and vitamins more discreetly in public. Well, still due to end up at fullDish of 12.5"+, so going for 'bust' for sure. ;D I have 12 weeks from now until my end (mid-Nov). Dowsing 2x's a day takes about 10-15 minutes total (dowsing 1st 3 dosages including B/C, and evening dose, which makes up any slack..this is accurate according to my p), but swallowing pills thru day also about 10 minutes , but much rather this than 'other' options. K, all for now..still worth it all!!
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Post by Islandgirl on Jan 31, 2005 15:35:00 GMT -5
Hi everyone thought an update was due: Been 5 mos dowsing now and my measurements are as follows: Above bust: 33 (Tops are really filling in!) Bust: 35.5 Under bust: 29 I have been taking SP 1600mg x 3 or 4 per day Fennel 575mg X 4 or 5 per day RC 450mg x 3 or 4 or 5 per day WY tinture .70ml x 3 or 4 per day This is really working! My breasts are are perky and fitting into 34B or 32C ;D Lisa
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