Ceci

[ceci]

Stats
Age:29
Height:5ft. 4.5inc
Weight:113
Underbust:29
Bust:31.5
Bra Size:34AA
Children:5
Breastfed:yes,all 5
Birth Control:Mirena IUD

It's been a little more than a year since I've been trying to enhance my breasts. The first 3 months were with herbs. Then the next 3 months were with BO, took a break for a couple of months. Since 4 months ago I've been on the herbs again.

Here's my daily routine:

Fenugreek
Fennel
Wild Yam
Saw Palmetto
Dong quai

The fennel and fenugreek I take about 1/4 tsp of each twice a day. I know for sure the 1/4 tsp. equals out to 500mg of fenugreek. I'm not too sure about the fennel though. Wild yam is 500mg, twice a day. Saw Palmetto is 600mg, twice a day. Dong quai is 50mg extract and 200mg root, once a day.

I ran out of EPO. I was taking a gram per day of it. I'm thinking of ordering the EFA 3-6-9.

Additionally, I try to drink gelatin every other day. Drink either fenugreek or fennel tea with some soy milk. But I haven't kept up with it daily.

Massage nightly with grape seed oil that's been infused with red clover,wild yam, fennel, and fenugreek. Use heating pad for 20 min. after massage.

[Wahaika]

ceci,

My observations about your routine would be better if I had answers to the following:

What was your size before children?

What was the biggest size during breast feeding?

Have you read the "Timing of Routines!" post in the General section. I'll bump it up. I would suggest you wait until "Day 1" after March 20th.

The Mirena IUD has a synthetic progestogen that may interfere with BE.

Wahaika

[ceci]

Size before children, hmmm ........32AA

Biggest size during breastfeeding, a full 34C

I did read "timing of routines". That's a good suggestion, but I'm not sure if I could be that patient to wait. I'll think about it.

Regarding the synthetic progestogen. I remember an australian member on eve's forum who did grow on NBE while using the mirena. I was wondering about this the other day that the IUD might be hindering me somehow. But how could the progestogen effect BE? Then that would mean the many women who use BC pills shouldn't respond to BE either, right?

[Wahaika]

We will have to try and find who that Australian member of Eve's forum was and take a look at the circumstances. The hindering (if you are being hindered) would be through the progesterone pathway. Progesterone is usually not BE friendly, but there are exceptions. But generally it is not. Yasmin, for example, has both estrogen (ethinyl estradiol) and a progestin. I am guessing that it is heavy on the estrogen side. I don't like the idea of either from a general health standpoint, but Yasmin has a good track record with BE.

So, any BC is a consideration, but there are a couple that seem to be BE friendly. I don't think that Mirena is one of them, but this lady from Australia seems to be an exception. It would be interesting to understand why.

..I think you may find that waiting is well worth it. But then, it is after all, just another theory, and a new one at that.

[ceci]

The member is Donna she has a before/after pic on the forum.

What's your take on suction devices?

[Wahaika]

I found some of Donna's comments. The jury is still out. But my take of suction devices is that they do more warping than growing. Just my opinion though.

Your routine looks good so far. I still think that late spring is better as a start though.

[ceci]

Alright, Thanks for your input.

I've taken a few days off of the herbs. I dont think I'll stop completely though, just a few days break.

[ceci]

Well, it's been about 2 weeks after my period started this month. I measured myself on the 9 day of this cycle and I grew 1/2 an inch. I'm so happy . I've been more patient with my routine this time around. My breasts ( I guess I can actually call them that now) are filling out on the lower outsides.

I really only massage once a day, which is in the night. Use some heat before and 20 min. after massaging. Also, try to drink gelatin after massaging. Added another 1/4tsp. each of fennel and fenugreek in the afternoon. I should be recieving my order of herbs and EFA's this coming week. So I'll be updating my routine soon.

[ceci]

I've added the noogleberry into my routine and EPO/FSO. So far so good. Got an inch increase.

underbust:29
bust:33
overbust:32

AM
Fenugreek pwdr. 1/4 tsp.
Fennel pwdr. 1/4 tsp.
Wild Yam 500mg

PM
Fenugreek pwder. 1/4 tsp.
Fennel pwdr. 1/4 tsp.
Wild Yam 500mg
Red Clover/Soy Extract .50ml
SP extract 160mg
FSO 1000mg
EPO 1300mg

I plan on using most of the herbs until they run out and stick mainly with the EFA's and pumping. I might consider just supplementing with fenugreek and saw palmetto only.

As for the breast pump, I use it twice a day and try to incorporate a gelatin drink during or after it.

Will keep updating on progress or lack there of.