kutelilkat's Routine

[kutelilkat]

Well ! Here I go with my NBE! Just starting out will updated soon

started on 2-18-07 :

Daily intake:

1x Saw Palmetto 575mg

( I know I need to add other herbs but so far this was all I could find at walmart and I know I really NEED at this point due to my high testoterone. only 6$ bucks for a huge bottle of SP at walmart and good quality no fillers! Plus I know I should start one herb at a time so I think this is a good start)

[kutelilkat]

today upped my dosage :

2x saw palmetto 575 = 1150 mg daily now

[flatmomof3]

Are you noticing any change in your breasts?

[vxandraxv]

Have you tried GNC? That's where I used to get mine.

[kutelilkat]

well no changes yet. (im only on SP and 6 minute massage daily with vitamin E)

Im going to be on alot more things soon. Just really trying to sort my routine out first.

only thing so far is im getting a slight rash and tiny bumps on my chest from the oil and massaging action. and my breast feel itchy after the massages.

havent tried GNC yet. I will thanks

[Wahaika]

>>Im thinking of starting with WU (and adding SP and BO seperatly?)

Are you on WU or SP? Your routine conflicts with what is in this message.

1.what could u suggest I use in my massage?

Depends on if you want to buy extracts (greenbush is the best) or make your own, which are also very good. At the top of the routine section is a section on "booby batter." Take a look in there. Fenugreek is probably the best thing to use.

>>2.and how much fenugreek should I take in addition to the WU? im still dont know how to do the ramping thing

The ramping thing is simple once you get the hang of it. For your size, make sure not to exceed 3000mg of Fenugreek when taken internally. Ramp up by taking 500mg one time per day for a few days, then do it two times a day (total of 1000mg) for a few days, etc., building to your maximum (3000mg per day) or until you feel growing pains. Either way tends to work well. For another example, see Surf's routine on Eve's board:
www.network54.com/Forum/482052/thread/1141405734/last-1147794401/My+stats+%26amp%3B+routine

>>3. should i add anything else with the WU ? maybe fennel or something else?

If you are going to use WU, then ramp that up also. If you are going to add anything to that I would suggest Fenugreek and maybe Goat's Rue. Don't forget to take your vitamins and oils like EPO and/or borage.

Wahaika

[kutelilkat]

Oh I ment that Im ON Sp (not WU yet) Im concidering buy and trying the WU soon though.

thanks wahaika! You helped clarify some things for me I'll keep updating on what im taking and if i see changes

[kutelilkat]

Wahaika; are powders steeped good to use for massage or are extracts better? Id rather use the powders to save money but not if they dont work as well.

and u said i could take borage with the WU ..do u mean orally and in massage?

Ive got 3 months supply of WU coming in the mail soon so any suggest as to what to add to my routine would be very helpful

[Wahaika]

Hello kutelilkat,

I think that steeping powdered fenugreek in borage oil and olive oil (as is on the booby batters thread in the routine section) is just as good as a commercial extract. But it has to have sit for no less than a week. The longer the better.

>>"and u said i could take borage with the WU ..do u mean orally and in massage?"

Yep.

Nothing more to suggest other than to ramp your WU as we kinda discussed in Reply #5 and add fenugreek to it. If the WU has the number of mg for each herb on a label, use it to guage how far to ramp the WU before ramping fenugreek in addition to it.

Wahaika

[kutelilkat]

will do thank you

[kutelilkat]

can someone tell me if this routine im planning sounds good or might need some changes?

for massage :
once or twice? daily with PM cream
once daily with my own boobie batter made from:
red clover (powder from capsules)
WY (powder)
FG and Fennel (powders)
borage oil
aloe
(+heat wrap)
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internally :
im going to try WU and SP
(milk thistle a few times a month for liver cleansing)
(maybe ramp fennel,red clover and or FG)
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I seem to get high blood pressure sometimes easily, but evertime i go to the dr my blood pressure seems very good! so im concerned about the herbs effect on my Blood pressure.

any info? ( i know FG lowers BP right? but i dont want to feel tired or faint from too much!)
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should I take RC and or WY internally also?

[Wahaika]

Massage: St. Herb? Once per day is OK. For your homemade one, twice if possible!

I don't think the herbs will normally affect blood pressure. But fenugreek is known for lowering blood sugar, sometimes to the point of causing headaches. If this happens, just eat some candy or drink some soda pop (not diet).

Hold off the RC and WY as internals until you stabilize for a few months. This is not something that you make changes to, every week. You might make changes every quarter. It is a slow process. The herbs need time to work. Once things are at some constant levels, then you can start adjusting.

Keep good records of measurements and how you feel. Remember, WU has a lot of stuff in it. You can only go as high as the ingredient that disagrees with you the most will allow. (I'm guessing that will be kelp if it has kelp in it.)

You might also take a good multivitamin.

Good luck!

Wahaika

[kutelilkat]

i got my WU in the mail today. it says to take 6 tablets daily. can I right away start taking six a day? or should i slowly build up to 6 like within a week?

WU doesnt have kelp in it.

I dont think im going to ramp the WU. I might just add a few single herbs like FG with it later. not sure yet.

[kutelilkat]

update:
so far just from my daily 6 minute massage with just vitamin E oil my breast feel much firmer and nipples are so sensitive now! and before I had very little feeling in them! Im going to change my massage technique though because the friction and rubbing motion is causing me to get tiny bumps on my chest still.( I think my skin is sensetive to the oil as well) I think I'll kind or rotate and move the entire breast instead of rubbing with my fingers all over.

[kutelilkat]

update:

massage 2x's daily with PM (st herb) cream (then heat for 20 minutes)
Pm soap 2x's daily left on for about 1 hour then washed off

575mg SP 3 x's daily
2 WU tablets 3 x's daily
500mg borage 2 daily
one womans balance multi vitamin
daily protein shake