Joyful1's Routine

[joyful1]

I haven't heard of agnus castus. That's not why I'm using the WY. It just seemed like a common herb, so I thought I'd try it. I heard someone else that uses gingko bilboa.

I've been using protein powder once a day because I don't think I get enough protein. Hopefully it'll help some.

Good luck Bonnette.

[joyful1]

2 days ago, I started opening my FG capsules and pouring out a tiny bit of the powder before taking it. I think when Greenbush had the 500mg capsules I would have benefitted more. Since estrogen rises during the cycle and I was only feeling pains the first week, I decided that maybe I need a little less mg's as my estrogen starts to rise. I have actually felt slight pains again since I started doing this. Sounds funny, but just wanted to document it.

[bonnette]

Very good Joyful1

strange thing is i have had more and stronger sensations this month as well, just can't figure out why (increased sawpalmetto, increased fenugreek, added agnuscastus, reduced EPO, added gingko biloba, added kelp, lots of avocado)

there's interesting suggestions in Eve's web that Epo could have bad effect on NBE in the beginning because it's working against swelling etc.

Lot of good luck,
Bonnette

[velvetblasphemy]

welcome back joyful, I'm glad your not giving up. There has to be hope for small girls like us too! I wish you lots of luck!!!

[joyful1]

Thank you.

I think I need a brand of herbs with less than 575mgs of FG. Anyone know of a good one? I think Greenbush herbs are the best, but I'm so small that I think 575 is too much for me.

[cherub]

Hi Joyful! I was using Natural Factors FG caps - they were 500 mg and I had success with them. I'm now using Swiss Natural Sources tabs and they are 500 mg as well. I just switched because it was there in a store I was in and it was cheap. I much prefer the Natural Factors brand though.

Cherub

[joyful1]

I've changed my routine. I've noticed that some small girls like me have had success with Breast Gain Plus. Since I'm too cheap to buy it, but wanted to give it a try, I'm doing my version of it.

I take the following once a day:
400mg Fenugreek
350 mg Fennel
250 mg Dong Quai

I also added Nettle root per Wahaika's suggestion- today I took 1 300mg capsule. I'm also going to add 1 GABA at night. I still massage twice a day with FG and aloe vera gel.

I have been experiencing pains in the last four days that I've been on the FG, FE, and DQ. I don't get them right away though. I get them later in the day. I got many more pains today a while after I took the Nettle. I'm on day 10 of my cycle.

I have to say that when I started this, my emotional state improved tremendously. I thought my depression had to do with some life struggles I was going through, but I think that much of it was because of all the herbs- possibly too much.

[joyful1]

I've added 175mg of Blessed Thistle once a day to my routine.

[joyful1]

I'm finally giving up on Fenugreek and decided that wrecking my marriage because I'm a basketcase is worse than not growing boobs. So I'm replacing Fenugreek with Fennel and uping the dose a little. Here's my routine now.

Morning:
2X 480mg Fennel
300mg Nettle Root
250mg Dong Quai
175mg Blessed Thistle

Evening:
480mg Fennel

[joyful1]

I really can't believe I'm still on this journey with no growth. It's almost been a year. OK... I started shrinking down to nothing without the FG. FG really gives me fullness, even though I'm not growing.

Since my marriage is "improving" I decided to give the FG a try again. I thought I might try Wonderup since it has worked on some small girls like me. I ordered it but since I don't have it yet, I've been taking FG and FE in the amounts in Wonderup tablets 3X a day. All my fullness came back. I'm not sure if that's a good sign. I could just be "full" for life and never grow though so that's discouraging. Man, Wonderup is expensive compared to buying individual herbs. It took me a while to actually click the "complete order" button.

[Wenonae]

Hi Joyful-

It seems the the fenugreek is just causing swelling, but maybe after some time it'll stick. You could try a muscle-test to see what else you need for BE. Hang in there. Honestly, those doses you had before- really seem too low to do much. Maybe do the fenu as you have it, but add 3g's of fennel. The other stuff (nettle, dong quai, blessed thistle) helps keep the liver functioning well, but if you didn't see progress after 2-3 months using it, I wouldn't bother this round.

Wen'

[joyful1]

Thanks Wen.

I forgot to mention that I've been having lots of pains and heaviness- even underarm pains which I've never had. Maybe it is just swelling. What's a muscle test? I am a AAA. I did the FG, WY, SP thing for months and months with no results at higher doses.

[Wenonae]

O! pains and heaviness a good sign! Keep at what you're doing then.
Muscle test: One on the EE site www.elegance-elixir.com/muscle-test_demo.pdf

Maybe your thing is fennel and fenugreek.

Wen'