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Post by princess26 on Jan 9, 2004 14:00:45 GMT -5
Ok, so here's my big gripe of the day...My youngest child, who will be 3 in March, refuses to use the potty chair! She has only gone to potty once and of course she went for her grandma, not me! I can't get her even remotely interested in sitting on the stupid thing. Now mind u I bought the potty chair right after her second birthday...but didn't try to rush her into going. Rather, I made her aware of it and let her determine when she was ready. I know that it's not like she is 5 and still not potty trained, but does anyone have any ideas on how to get her interested or excited to use this darn thing? My son only took a weekend when he was getting trained and he was completely broke. I think I just had it too easy with the first one and now I am paying for it. I am just so sick of the diapers and want to get her trained now!!!! Please help!!! Anyone have any ideas for me to try that have worked for u and your kids? Kelly
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Post by mominator on Jan 9, 2004 20:28:50 GMT -5
One thing that worked for me. I put toyz by their potty chair. I would also read them stories. ;D Mine were pretty easy to train....but it worked. Of course with all boyz, Cheerios worked...SINK THE CHEERIOS! Doesn't work well with girls though.
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Post by princess26 on Jan 9, 2004 21:38:34 GMT -5
I have tried that and she won't show any interest in it. My son, well, he was so easy to train. Like I said, one weekend and he was broke...My daughter on the other hand, she knows when she goes, and tries to avoid it. Then after she's gone in her diaper, she tells me. Go figure... Anyways, I will keep trying...but it is really frustrating. They really should come with some kind of instruction manual! It would be so much easier, ya know? Thanks for the advice, maybe it will just take more time with her! , Kelly
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Post by mominator on Jan 9, 2004 22:24:50 GMT -5
There is your problem! NO DIAPERS! Only at night! If she feels the wetness from wet undies...she will not like it at all! Try that! It worked for a friend of mine, who had a stubborn girl.
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Post by princess26 on Jan 10, 2004 0:22:28 GMT -5
I think I am to that point now. I have bought her some big girl undies thinking that maybe she would get excited, but nope...not her! I think tomorrow is gonna be a long day, cuz I think I will make her wear them whether she wants to or not! Thanks for the help, Kell
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Post by PrincessGrace on Jan 10, 2004 20:39:29 GMT -5
Kelly, I agree with Momi. My oldest (now 11!) wasn't potty trained until he was almost four. I know that sounds strange, but we had our second son when the oldest was 2, so it was partly busyness/laziness on our part, and a little bit of rebellion on his (he didn't handle the new addition well, though they're best friends now). My mom finally suggested "tossing" the diapers (he was actually in Pull-Ups, not diapers). So, we put him in training underwear (you know, the thick kind), and he was potty trained in just a couple of days. I would just tell your daughter, "These are your new big girl underpants. No more diapers (or Pull-Ups, etc.)." Then walk away without making a big deal out of it. Hope it works quickly for you! Grace
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Post by princess26 on Jan 10, 2004 21:27:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the help...I was gonna try this today..but unfortunately my oldest has been sick..so not alot of time to try the potty training today. Hopefully by Monday when the oldest goes back to school we can really focus on it then. I hope it works, cuz I don't know what else to do with her. She keeps telling me she doesn't want to be a big girl, that she is still a baby...lol..and she's the youngest...I could understand it more if there was another younger than she. Again, thanks for all the help! Kelly
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Post by fawnmarie on Jan 10, 2004 23:06:40 GMT -5
I went through something similar.
With my first one son (both are close together in age, so it was hard to really be consistant with one still in diapers), when I realized I was about to strangle the kid I also realized it was time to BACK OFF.
I put the potty chair away for a while - I guess it was about a month and a half or more. I just disappeared the darn thing and waited until there wasn't so much tension attached to it (for either of us).
After more than a month or so, I 'bootcamped' him. We stayed home on a three day weekend, he wore NOTHING except a long, long tee-shirt, and I gave him lots and lots and LOTs of fluids. We put the potty chair in the kitchen and had tons of juice and water and milk. We stayed in ALL weekend practicing. He either had to pee on the floor or sit on the potty.
(I think I got this technique from the "Potty Training without Tears" book, actually.)
After that three days of intense hydration and practice, he didn't give me TOO much trouble and was fine after. And yes, he was about 3 years old at the time.
I think you should put the potty away for a while until neither of you are upset about it and it's not an issue of power struggle anymore. Just go back to diapers for a couple of weeks and let your temper settle.
Then - take away her diapers and pants and let her go bare bottomed for a while. Believe me, at 3, she will be HORRIFIED to see the puddle.
And also - some kids actually do better on a real toilet - you can get a ring to put around it and a stool.
Fawn
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Post by princess26 on Jan 11, 2004 1:27:46 GMT -5
Fawn, Thanks for the info...I never thought to let her go completely without...not a bad idea! Think I'll try it...btw, my mom actually babysits a little girl who's mom had tried and tried to potty train her to no avail. My mom always made sure that she tried to go, but I think the biggest problem was that they never took her out of the pull-ups...which by the way, I refuse to buy! Her mom finally got her broke...but it was kinda a weird and unconventional way...I guess she finally took the pull-ups away, after a year and made her wear underwear...And everytime she went in her underwear, her mom would make her take them off and wear them on her head for 5 minutes. Can u imagine? But it worked for her. I don't think that I could ever do that to my little girl, but it makes u wonder who came up with this method of potty training. She told my mom that she asked the pediatrician and he was the one who told her about this. I would have thought he was joking!!! I think that come Monday morning, I am gonna see how she does without the diapers, and I think that I will take your advice and try the bare butt method...I'll let u know if it works! , Kelly
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Post by fawnmarie on Jan 11, 2004 14:03:34 GMT -5
Wow - the head thing sounds sort of extreme!
Yeah, with No. 1, I just let him go bare butt for three days straight (except for night time, of course) and we just didn't leave the house. I found him a long t-shirt that went to his knees to keep his butt covered. Granted - we live in Florida and it was spring and it was warm.
With No. 2 - he refused to poop in the potty. He had trained himself to poop in the potty at 18 months, but then 2 weeks at day care screwed him up for another year or more. He would actually WAIT until we put pullups or pants or even underwear on to poop! He would pee just fine. What he wouldn't do was poop without pants on. I don't think the day care people bothered to get him to the potty, because he was so young.
We literally had to take his pants away and do the same thing - though it took longer because it was bowel training and you can't really load them up on anything to make them poop (like you can with water & juice). So, I would take him to my mom's before work - we would strip him down to a t-shirt - and then dress him before going home - strip him again until bedtime - etc. You wouldn't BELIEVE how many times he took advantage of it on the ride home! On the weekend I would keep him in just the t-shirt, too, unless we had to go somewhere. He would pee in the potty just fine, he just wouldn't poop!
That took about 3 weeks, but eventually he gave in and stopped holding it.
But like I said, if you have been getting mad at her and frustrated and maybe giving her a lot of trouble about it, you might want to wait another couple of weeks until neither of you are upset about the potty thing anymore. Just take all the pressure off of her for a little while. She could be doing it as a power struggle thing and unless you give both of you a chance to bury the issue as a struggle, it might not work. Just put the potty away for a couple of weeks and put her back in diapers until she forgets about it, THEN bring it out and bootcamp her with lots of fluids (and when you are less likely to be fed up and exasperated - a fresh start, as it were).
Oh - and by the way, when I was doing the potty training thing I read some interesting statistics about it. Apparently children are most likely to be potty trainable between 16 and 24 months and over 32 months - it's almost impossible to train them between 25-31 months. So, you should either do it before they're two - or wait til they are almost 3 - because if you try it when they're 2 you'll just drive yourself nuts.
Fawn
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Post by pammy on Jan 12, 2004 9:51:25 GMT -5
I have a daughter and maybe they are harder to train. Although I got lucky. My mom kept my daughter for a week before she turned 2. Wasn't really thinking about potty training her yet. Anyways, when daughter came home my mom had her completely trained. She told me she bought some big girl panties, pretty ones, and that's all she would allow her unless it was night time. Daughter hated to get her pretty panties wet. Mom didn't act like it was a horrific experience and daughter acted like she's been using the potty her whole life. I once read someone's potty training advise, something called 'Naked and $75'. They said take one week, let the kid run around completely naked, they will hate the feel of being wet, start using the potty. Then after that week use the $75 to have your carpets cleaned. Best of luck
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Post by princess26 on Jan 12, 2004 12:22:37 GMT -5
Well, I have to say that I have taken the diapers away except at night. This morning we took off the diaper and I was gonna do the naked thing...however it's very cold here and the house has been kinda drafty.So I decided to put her in underwear and told her that we were gonna use the potty today. So far she hasn't gone yet...but she's not wet either! I am hoping that she will go in the potty today. And I figure that if she finds out what wet really feels like, she won't like it! I will keep u posted on this...it could take a while...lol.... Thanks for all the help.. , Kelly
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Post by princess26 on Jan 12, 2004 21:38:33 GMT -5
Okay...so she finally went!!! Yea!!! And she was so proud...it only took her 3 hours on constantly sitting on the potty to finally go..but better than nuttin, huh? We'll see what tomorrow brings. Kell
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Post by fawnmarie on Jan 13, 2004 12:22:33 GMT -5
That's great!
Give her lots of fluids to give her reasons to practice (it's okay if it keeps her from eating normally for a couple of days).
And reward always helps, too!!
Pat her on the back for me!
Fawn
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Post by princess26 on Jan 17, 2004 0:02:14 GMT -5
Okay ladies...here it is....drum roll please!!!!!!! My daughter has somehow managed to hold everything in all day and wait for the diaper at night to go! I will say this much, today she stopped herself before going potty in her panties while eating lunch. But then when we got to the bathroom, she sat there and sat there...and nothing. Okay that was at 12:30 and she didn't potty until almost 8PM tonight! What's up with that? I even tried letting her put her hand in some warm water to try to get her to empty out the bladder this afternoon, and that didn't work either. I have never in my life seen someone drink so much and not go pee! We have read every book in the house more than a dozen times and sang every song we know...I have let her run naked and sit as long as she wanted on the potty...and taken her every hour and tried just a few minutes at a time...Bless her heart...she's still trying though! She gets so excited when she does actually go and we definitely praise her for her efforts. I think she is getting more used to the idea of having to go, but yesterday she only went potty twice and both times she went was like one after the other. I just don't see how someone that small can have better control over their bladder than most adults. I think just having watched her drink so much I had to pee every 5 minutes and she was just chillin' on the potty and not going at all! I am determined that she will get the hang of this by next week. I think the fact that she stopped herself from going today at lunch tells me that she has the idea, but just can't figure it out when she sits on the darn thing! Thanks for all your help on this...if anyone has anything further that may have worked for them, please let me know...I'll try anything at the moment ... , Kell
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