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Post by jeanne on Oct 15, 2005 4:09:23 GMT -5
Hi .. I am so curious to found which one between these two herbs that powerfull enough and having the most large amount of phytoestrogen. So i got this when i did some search from Google : www.homeherbs.com/0/information/54/breast_comparisons.html""""" Comparison to Other Products It seems that there is a new breast enhancing formula popping up every week: Erdic, Definition, Natural Contours, Grobust, Wonder Cream, Endow and Endow plus, New Woman, Perfect Woman... The list goes on and on. In every case they are charging high prices for small amounts of common herbs. Many of these formulas contain small amounts of eight, ten or even twelve herbs in an effort to make themselves look more exotic. Some contain goat's rue, pueraria mirifica, or even bovine mammary tissue - all things of questionable use or safety. The fact is there are a limited number of phyto-nutrients that help to increase breast size. And what you need is ample amounts of the few safe herbs that contain the highest concentrations of these nutrients; fenugreek, fennel, saw palmetto and wild yam. As they recently said in Prevention magazine; "These are the "kitchen sink" supplements, products that have as many as 20 herbs in a tablet or capsule. It's hard enough to get an active does of one herb into a single tablet or capsule, much less 20 active doses of 20 different herbs. Bottom line: They just don't work." We have had many women have success with the pure herbs after spending large amounts of money on these formulas. We hope that the comparisons below will convince you not to waste your money on these "miracle formulas" when all you need is pure inexpensive and common herbs. """"" Also from what i 've learned, Pueraria Mirifica showing slow respons to BE result. While the information, this herb known to be very potent in phytoestrogen. It seemed the fact is just too far away from the readings isnt it ? Hopely you can find any other information related to this and post it here. So it will really helps other girls that might be new to BE and confused picking the right herbs combination for BE. Jeanne
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Post by bellezanegra826 on Oct 15, 2005 5:06:47 GMT -5
does this mean that fenugreek, fennel and the other herbs have no side effects? all of these thingytail nbe pills claim that there are no side effects but people are posting here all the time about bad reactions that they have had.
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Post by jeanne on Oct 15, 2005 5:17:10 GMT -5
does this mean that fenugreek, fennel and the other herbs have no side effects? all of these thingytail nbe pills claim that there are no side effects but people are posting here all the time about bad reactions that they have had. dont get wrong bellezanegra, i posted this because in many information i got from google i found that Pueraria Mirifica showing slow results than Fenugreek. Both of these herbs were phytoestrogen. But we must pay attention to the xenoestrogen. I dunno, perhaps in PM, this xenoestrogen larger than the Fenugreek. As we know, xenoestrogen is bad for BE. correct me if i'm wrong. thats what i got after reading several articles on BE. Jeanne
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Post by zanyzara on Oct 15, 2005 10:34:51 GMT -5
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Post by fawnmarie on Oct 15, 2005 12:36:29 GMT -5
There's benefits to both herbs, and really it's just a matter of finding the one that's right for you.
PM is a pretty potent phytoestrogen. But some women it wouldn't work best for because of that. If you are on chemical birth control, or have a history of endometriosis or fibrocystic breast syndrome, or other problems like that, you probably do not want to use a pueraria mirifica product at all.
Fenugreek has one real advantage over PM and that is that it increases prolactin. However, if you have blood sugar problems, fenugreek might not be the best thing for you, because it can cause hypoglycemic attacks. If you've never had one, it's sort of like an anxiety attack and they are not pleasant at all.
It really is just a matter of finding out which one is right for you, and experimenting, or even dowsing if you're inclined to. It would be fun to come up with some kind of profile tool to narrow down which herbs are best for you, but quite honestly at this point I'm sure we couldn't come up with one that SOMEBODY doesn't have a problem with or for whom it didn't work.
Fawn
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Post by jeanne on Oct 16, 2005 1:50:12 GMT -5
There's benefits to both herbs, and really it's just a matter of finding the one that's right for you. PM is a pretty potent phytoestrogen. But some women it wouldn't work best for because of that. If you are on chemical birth control, or have a history of endometriosis or fibrocystic breast syndrome, or other problems like that, you probably do not want to use a pueraria mirifica product at all. Fenugreek has one real advantage over PM and that is that it increases prolactin. However, if you have blood sugar problems, fenugreek might not be the best thing for you, because it can cause hypoglycemic attacks. If you've never had one, it's sort of like an anxiety attack and they are not pleasant at all. It really is just a matter of finding out which one is right for you, and experimenting, or even dowsing if you're inclined to. It would be fun to come up with some kind of profile tool to narrow down which herbs are best for you, but quite honestly at this point I'm sure we couldn't come up with one that SOMEBODY doesn't have a problem with or for whom it didn't work. Fawn fawnmarie, thanks so much with the info you gave. Speaking of sugar problems. My mom had it. Should i be very carefull when taking Fenugreek ? Jeanne
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Post by Wenonae on Oct 17, 2005 2:03:15 GMT -5
thanks so much with the info you gave. Speaking of sugar problems. My mom had it. Should i be very carefull when taking Fenugreek ? Jeanne yes. Wen'
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Post by Ruderico on Oct 17, 2005 9:07:22 GMT -5
I'm currently using the PM cream (it's GREAT!!Getting beautiful round boobies!!! ), but I was wondering: should I continue taking fennel (one cap 3 times-a-day), and GB enhancement caps (2 caps, 3 times-a-day) ?Thursday I'm going to use the Yasmin BC for the first time, and I'm currently also taking Omega 3-6-9 caps (made of fish oil, flax seed and borage oil, one caps 3 times a day), and one multivitamin& -mineral.
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Post by Ruderico on Oct 17, 2005 9:39:49 GMT -5
Another question: should I add Kudzu Root, now I'm on the PM cream, in order to stimulate and keep growth?
(but I only want to grow a little more than an inch)
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Post by stacyk on Oct 17, 2005 15:24:35 GMT -5
Is it okay to use PM cream while on BC? Earlier in this post, Fawn said that is probably not best to use PM while taking chemical BC (like Yasmin); I'm assuming that would be both internal and external. I mean even if you are using an external, doesn't it get into the rest of your system? I would like to use the PM cream, but am on Yasmin so thought I shouldn't.
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Post by Wenonae on Oct 17, 2005 15:46:34 GMT -5
Is it okay to use PM cream while on BC? Earlier in this post, Fawn said that is probably not best to use PM while taking chemical BC (like Yasmin); I'm assuming that would be both internal and external. I mean even if you are using an external, doesn't it get into the rest of your system? I would like to use the PM cream, but am on Yasmin so thought I shouldn't. Yasmin + PM cream external is perfectly fine. As is using bovine ovary (a very different estrogenic source, a glandular, crushed cow ovaries) is fine to take interally with phyto-estrogenic boobie batter externally. You just don't to very different types of estrogen taken orally as your body could become confused as to which one it should allow use for. Wen'
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Post by fawnmarie on Oct 18, 2005 9:03:00 GMT -5
You can use PM cream (either Mirifem or St Herb) with any internal BE products you like, and you can use it on BC pills. Do not use the capsules while on BC pills.
Fawn
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Post by hulagirl on Oct 18, 2005 9:11:35 GMT -5
I'm thinking of using Mirifem and i know that you have to use it starting on the first day of your period. I usually spot for 2 days so should I start it then or should I start when I start my 'real" period?
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Post by kutelilkat on Apr 11, 2007 19:33:28 GMT -5
i have the same question as hulagirl.
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Post by fawnmarie on Apr 22, 2007 11:33:24 GMT -5
hulagirl - you didn't say when you spot.
Because most BE programs run the risk of altering your natural cycle, and because most women require increased estrogen during the low-progesterone phase of their cycle, I would say that it is ALWAYS wise to start a new BE program during your period, even if you miss the first day or so, or skip it intentionally for a cleanse.
Fawn
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